OE isn't letting me append this to the thread:


"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Keith G" wrote


there were a number of factors that went into the early
demise of the DVDA and SACDs:


They were
greedily/discouragingly priced to start with;

Not that much more than CDs, if memory serves.


Prices like 19.95 and maybe even 24.95 seem to ring a bell.




they needed an expensive player;

Player prices came way down to well under $200. I even own one. Still no
joy in the marketplace.


I bought a 600 quid Sony for less than 200 quid 'pre-owned' and the bloody
thing wouldn't play rips!




they didn't sound *that much* better
(if at all) on 'hifi' equipment

Unless they were remastered and ended up sounding better than the
predecessor CDs.

and almost certainly
wouldn't have done on 'domestic' (electrical hardware
shop) kit

There was precious little if any of that would play a SACD or DVD-A.


Yes, you're right. I suppose the point is that Joe Snot mainly had 'hardware
store' equipment in the first place which, as you point out, vertainly
wouldn't play the hi-res disks.



See my former comments about relying on store staff for anything but
taking your money...


True of most places these days.



and HD TV will only succeed because it is Hobson's
Choice

Boy, HDTV must really be *bad* in the UK.

No idea, but you can't buy anything but 'HD Ready' TVs in
this country. (Correct me if I'm wrong here!)

You do have HD broadcast TV working by now, eh?


Yes, but I have never seen it.



Actually, Netflix is nicking me for an extra buck or so a month to get
BluRay discs.


OK. You happy about that? LoveFilm (Amazon) doesn't charge a premium.



and BD players are dropping fast in price.

Roger that! For about $130 you can get a Blu Ray player that is wonderful
for CDs, DVDs, Blu Ray, internet, and even downloads off of your PC.


Yes, 80 quid and up in the UK I'm told!



I predict they will kill the ordinary DVD off if the
Internet doesn't do it first

The problem with the internet lacks the capacity for widespread HD video
downloading. Most of Netflix's downloadable catalog is SD and not their
best movies, only a tiny subset of their entire catalog. Yet, their
downloads are
20% of the total US Internet traffic. To much more of that, and the
whole
sand castle comes tumbling down.


Good point.

When you say it won't let you exactly what do you mean. are you getting
errors or what? I know OE can get confused, but a restart usually fixes
these problems
Brian

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"Keith G" wrote in message
...


OE isn't letting me append this to the thread:


"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"Keith G" wrote


there were a number of factors that went into the early
demise of the DVDA and SACDs:


They were
greedily/discouragingly priced to start with;

Not that much more than CDs, if memory serves.


Prices like 19.95 and maybe even 24.95 seem to ring a bell.




they needed an expensive player;

Player prices came way down to well under $200. I even own one. Still no
joy in the marketplace.


I bought a 600 quid Sony for less than 200 quid 'pre-owned' and the bloody
thing wouldn't play rips!




they didn't sound *that much* better
(if at all) on 'hifi' equipment

Unless they were remastered and ended up sounding better than the
predecessor CDs.

and almost certainly
wouldn't have done on 'domestic' (electrical hardware
shop) kit

There was precious little if any of that would play a SACD or DVD-A.


Yes, you're right. I suppose the point is that Joe Snot mainly had
'hardware
store' equipment in the first place which, as you point out, vertainly
wouldn't play the hi-res disks.



See my former comments about relying on store staff for anything but
taking your money...


True of most places these days.



and HD TV will only succeed because it is Hobson's
Choice

Boy, HDTV must really be *bad* in the UK.

No idea, but you can't buy anything but 'HD Ready' TVs in
this country. (Correct me if I'm wrong here!)

You do have HD broadcast TV working by now, eh?


Yes, but I have never seen it.



Actually, Netflix is nicking me for an extra buck or so a month to get
BluRay discs.


OK. You happy about that? LoveFilm (Amazon) doesn't charge a premium.



and BD players are dropping fast in price.

Roger that! For about $130 you can get a Blu Ray player that is
wonderful
for CDs, DVDs, Blu Ray, internet, and even downloads off of your PC.


Yes, 80 quid and up in the UK I'm told!



I predict they will kill the ordinary DVD off if the
Internet doesn't do it first

The problem with the internet lacks the capacity for widespread HD video
downloading. Most of Netflix's downloadable catalog is SD and not their
best movies, only a tiny subset of their entire catalog. Yet, their
downloads are
20% of the total US Internet traffic. To much more of that, and the
whole
sand castle comes tumbling down.


Good point.

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
...
When you say it won't let you exactly what do you mean. are you getting
errors or what?


When I hit send and receive the posts go off except the odd one when a
message comes up saying it could not be posted for some reason or other -
'subject line length too long' is one I remember seeing. The unsent message
just sits in the Outbox and won't go. The way out is to swipe the entire
message and cut and paste it into a new post which of course starts a new
thread.


I know OE can get confused, but a restart usually fixes
these problems


Not these it doesn't.

:-)

"Keith G" wrote in message
...

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
...
When you say it won't let you exactly what do you mean. are you getting
errors or what?


When I hit send and receive the posts go off except the odd one when a
message comes up saying it could not be posted for some reason or other -
'subject line length too long' is one I remember seeing. The unsent
message just sits in the Outbox and won't go. The way out is to swipe the
entire message and cut and paste it into a new post which of course starts
a new thread.


It's always the same error IME, "Error 441, line 3 too long" or something
similar. It seems to occur when the thread has been going for a long time
and I've already contributed quite a lot of posts too it. I take as a hint
that maybe it's time to start a new thread as by then the old one has almost
certainly split into multiple sub-threads, non related to the original
subject line, as the "Technics direct drive turntable" thread had by the
time I started to get problems with it.

I know OE can get confused, but a restart usually fixes
these problems


Not these it doesn't.

Very true, it doesn't.

David.

David Looser said...

It's always the same error IME, "Error 441, line 3 too long" or something
similar. It seems to occur when the thread has been going for a long time
and I've already contributed quite a lot of posts too it. I take as a hint
that maybe it's time to start a new thread


"This error message occurs when you reply to a deep thread in
newsgroups. Line 3 is the References header. It contains the message ID
of every message in the thread. When this line becomes too long,
Outlook Express adds a carriage return instead of removing some of the
IDs in the middle. This makes the last message ID invalid and so your
reply is blocked from being sent."

A solution can be found he http://goo.gl/1tyS6

--
Ken O'Meara
http://www.btinternet.com/~unsteadyken/

"UnsteadyKen" wrote in message
m...
David Looser said...

It's always the same error IME, "Error 441, line 3 too long" or something
similar. It seems to occur when the thread has been going for a long time
and I've already contributed quite a lot of posts too it. I take as a
hint
that maybe it's time to start a new thread


"This error message occurs when you reply to a deep thread in
newsgroups. Line 3 is the References header. It contains the message ID
of every message in the thread. When this line becomes too long,
Outlook Express adds a carriage return instead of removing some of the
IDs in the middle. This makes the last message ID invalid and so your
reply is blocked from being sent."


That's good to know, Ken - thanks for posting!