"David Looser" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote




You need to realise that some people (includes me and my partner) don't
perceive that 'dramatic improvement' - quite the opposite. I suspect you
are one of those people who hover over the speakers and only hear the
surface noise from LPs...??


Had you omitted "quite the opposite" I'd have had no problem with that
statement. If people say that vinyl is good enough, that they either can't
hear the difference or don't care I can understand that. So as some people
like the physical presence of an LP, the big sleeve etc. and many also
enjoy the "retro" experience of rotating turntables and all the rest of
business that goes with playing vinyl I can see why some may prefer it.
I've heard some say that it's a nostalgia thing, that records from the 50s
and 60s *should* be played as they would have been when new, that the
clicks and pops are all part of the authentic experience, well fair
enough.


So far, so good.



But you said "quite the opposite", implying that, to you, CD sounds
*worse*. Now that I cannot understand. In what way, exactly, does CD sound
worse?


Easy: it sounds comparatively lifeless and flat. There is not so much
'presence' and 'depth' as there is with a record. My partner, a musician
with a very good ear, goes as far as to say she thinks CDs sound 'veiled' -
I don't go quite this far myself.

Other aspects of CDs don't do them any favours: the 'large' small size - ie
not really small but not large either, just big enough to make the 'sleeve
notes' impossibly small and the 'artwork' too small to count and then
there's the truly ****ty jewel cases. They go on too long when they have
been 'filled up' and the fact that they are all on the same side means
there's no welcome interlude when you need to flip the disk.

Sorry if it upsets you but, quite simply, I never really 'took to them'! :-)

Easier to say why I prefer vinyl - from the moment the needle goes down with
that little crackle to announce the beginning of the music to the little pop
when the needle is lifted off at the end of the side! Bliss!



I've told you what is better about it: no surface noise, no impulse noise,
dramatically less distortion of the sort which leads to a strained quality
on high-level high pitched sounds such as violins or female voices. So
what, exactly, is worse about the sound quality of a CD?


See above



You accused me of "hovering over the speakers" to hear the improvement
that CD offers. Actually the improvement is clearly audible in normal
listening, but are you not "hovering over the speakers" to hear whatever
it is about the LP that you appear to like?


No, frequently I'm two rooms away (when I'm on this computer)! The sound
just floods the place and does not seem to diminish!


The bizarre thing IMO is that some audiophools will spend a fortune on an
ultra-expensive turntable with, presumably, the intention of minimising
the distortions that are the audible signature of vinyl. Why not simply
get a CD player and be done with them altogether?


You're not getting it, are you? Play the ACA You Tube I referenced and see
if you can see anything in what they say - probably the best collection of
Audiophools on the planet but they do seem to get a great deal of
pleasure/satisfaction from their kit!

It's all kinda why bake a cake when you can get a 'perfect' Mr Kipling from
the supermarket, ain't it?

:-)