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"Iain Churches" wrote

If it comes down to "the fashion item to have" then turntables are
a much stronger contender.

Really? I *very* much doubt that turntables will ever be a "fashion
item"
again.

Urban Outfitters is a semi-fashionable store

What does "semi-fashionable" mean?

Not "high fashion". It's meant to be hip and has mock-vintage style
goods.

You need to be careful with the word "fashion" here. The term "high-fashion"
comes from the world of clothing, it cannot be used in any other context. I
think what you are trying to suggest is that the goods this store sells have
a cult following.

No, I don't; yes, it can; and under your definition anything fashionable
has a cult following.

that sells clothes,
furnishings, etc to college students in the US. I was surprised to find
a small section of the shop given over to such 'obsolete' items as
Holga
cameras, cheap turntables and high quality lps.

What's a "Holga" camera?

It's a cheap film camera that yields distorted but pleasing photos.

Must be an American thing.

Chinese.

Come to that, what is a "high quality" LP?

High priced, 180 gram, expensive packaging (gatefolds, etc).

Ah, I wondered whether you meant the content was "high quality". I assume
that these LPs are new, not classic.

New lps, mostly 'classic' titles. The quality of the lps was odd
considering the quality of the turntables on which one would presumably
play them.

There are things that have a cult following, that doesn't make them
"fashionable".

In this case, lps and turntables are part of the overall hipster,
faux-vintage style.

Like I said, a cult following.

Or, "Fashion, a general term for a currently popular style or practice,
especially in clothing, foot wear or accessories."

Stephen

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Like I said, a cult following.

Or, "Fashion, a general term for a currently popular style or practice,
especially in clothing, foot wear or accessories."


Indeed, note the phrase "currently popular". That a shop that appeals to a
narrow customer base sells vinyl does not mean that vinyl is "currently
popular".

David.

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Like I said, a cult following.

Or, "Fashion, a general term for a currently popular style or practice,
especially in clothing, foot wear or accessories."


Indeed, note the phrase "currently popular". That a shop that appeals to a
narrow customer base sells vinyl does not mean that vinyl is "currently
popular".

That wasn't the question. Lps are part of hipster fashion. You don't see
haute couture on the street nearly as often as hipster wear but they're
both 'fashion.'

Stephen

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Like I said, a cult following.

Or, "Fashion, a general term for a currently popular style or practice,
especially in clothing, foot wear or accessories."


Indeed, note the phrase "currently popular". That a shop that appeals to
a
narrow customer base sells vinyl does not mean that vinyl is "currently
popular".

That wasn't the question.

It was.

Lps are part of hipster fashion.

Are they? You have stated that a shop that sells "hipster fashion"also sells
LPs. But that doesn't necessarily mean that LPs are *part* of that fashion.
Also the origanal claim was that turntables would become "fashionable",
nothing there about "hipster fashion" (whatever that is, as far as I was
aware the word "hipster" refered to a style of jeans). Being fashionable
amongst a narrow group doesn't equal "being fashionable".

David.

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Like I said, a cult following.

Or, "Fashion, a general term for a currently popular style or practice,
especially in clothing, foot wear or accessories."


Indeed, note the phrase "currently popular". That a shop that appeals to
a
narrow customer base sells vinyl does not mean that vinyl is "currently
popular".

That wasn't the question.

It was.

I was quibbling about your contention that turntables wouldn't be part
of fashion again

Lps are part of hipster fashion.

Are they? You have stated that a shop that sells "hipster fashion"also sells
LPs. But that doesn't necessarily mean that LPs are *part* of that fashion.
Also the origanal claim was that turntables would become "fashionable",
nothing there about "hipster fashion" (whatever that is, as far as I was
aware the word "hipster" refered to a style of jeans). Being fashionable
amongst a narrow group doesn't equal "being fashionable".

Your quibbles are logically valid but factually incorrect, except for
the proposition that "being fashionable" doesn't equal "being
fashionable" because of an arbitrarily exclusion.

http://www.timeout.com/london/around..._London_essent
ials.html

"When they¹re not selling their guitars to buy turntables, they¹re
selling their turntables to buy guitars * EaLo¹s hipsters are frontline
soldiers in the culture war. Look out for their American Apparel camo at
all the area¹s free gigs, basement aftershows, secret raves and
pose-friendly cafés."

Stephen

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"When they¹re not selling their guitars to buy turntables, they¹re
selling their turntables to buy guitars * EaLo¹s hipsters are frontline
soldiers in the culture war.


This "culture war" is news to me, can you please expand a little?

Iain

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"When they¹re not selling their guitars to buy turntables, they¹re
selling their turntables to buy guitars * EaLo¹s hipsters are frontline
soldiers in the culture war.


This "culture war" is news to me, can you please expand a little?

I believe this is just a colorful description to dramatize the hipster
daily grind.

Stephen

"MiNe 109" wrote

Your quibbles are logically valid but factually incorrect, except for
the proposition that "being fashionable" doesn't equal "being
fashionable" because of an arbitrarily exclusion.


Vague waffle such as that does not advance your argument one iota. You will
have to explain where the "factual inaccuracies" are and where this
"arbitrarily exclusion" is to be found

http://www.timeout.com/london/around..._London_essent
ials.html

"When they¹re not selling their guitars to buy turntables, they¹re
selling their turntables to buy guitars * EaLo¹s hipsters are frontline
soldiers in the culture war. Look out for their American Apparel camo at
all the area¹s free gigs, basement aftershows, secret raves and
pose-friendly cafés."


Yet more vague waffle. what is "EaLo¹s hipsters are frontline soldiers in
the culture war" supposed to mean?

David.

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"David Looser" wrote:

"MiNe 109" wrote

Your quibbles are logically valid but factually incorrect, except for
the proposition that "being fashionable" doesn't equal "being
fashionable" because of an arbitrarily exclusion.


Vague waffle such as that does not advance your argument one iota. You will
have to explain where the "factual inaccuracies" are and where this
"arbitrarily exclusion" is to be found

I'd look in your own words that you just snipped. Your logical
speculations are trumped by facts. Claiming hipster fashion doesn't
count because it's really a cult is a dodge by definition.

http://www.timeout.com/london/around..._London_essent
ials.html

"When they¹re not selling their guitars to buy turntables, they¹re
selling their turntables to buy guitars * EaLo¹s hipsters are frontline
soldiers in the culture war. Look out for their American Apparel camo at
all the area¹s free gigs, basement aftershows, secret raves and
pose-friendly cafés."


Yet more vague waffle. what is "EaLo¹s hipsters are frontline soldiers in
the culture war" supposed to mean?

The meaning is not important. What is important is that there is a
hipster scene (and hipster fashion) and it includes turntables.

Your argument was that turntables won't be fashionable. I pointed out a
fashion scene that includes them. QED.

Stephen