"Dave Liquorice" wrote in
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On Mon, 7 Mar 2011 14:05:22 -0500, Arny Krueger wrote:

I pointed out that he had just crimped a normal plug to
solid cored cable. The guy had no idea.

Since CAT5 is normally solid core, why wouldn't it be
appropriate to use a solid core plug?

Solid cored CAT5 is installation cable and would normally
be connected to the IDC punch down blocks on a wall plate
socket one end and the similar blocks in the patch bay.

Plugs go on patch cable which has stranded core for
durabilty with repeated flexing.

Short patch cables that are used on patch bays are usually stranded, but
long patch cables that are used to simplify installations by avoiding punch
down blocks and wall plates are solid. Both types of plugs are widely
available. There are also many occasions where plugs are used to terminate
a cable that just plugs into a piece of equpment because the equipment is
installed out of sight, and no wall plates are needed.

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"SpamTrapSeeSig" wrote
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In article
, Arny
Krueger writes
This begs the question why we don't worry about
reflections on unterminated
CAT5. The reason is that each CAT5 cable connects only
2 points, and if one
point is disconnected, theres no other device whose
reception is adversely
affected by the reflections.

I don't think that's right.


Arny not right?

*Impossible* - just ask him!


Actually in this instance Arny *is* right. "SpamTrapSeeSig" misunderstood
the point.


Oh David, you're killing Keith. In his world I'm wrong until proven right.
;-)

"David Looser" wrote in message ...

"Actually in this instance Arny *is* right. "SpamTrapSeeSig"
misunderstood the point.

Yet again, you've proved yourselves to be a load of clueless warbling
idiots, especially Krueger.
The original post was about **thin Ethernet** aka 10Base2, which used coax
cables, BNC connectors, BNC T adaptors and end terminators.

On Mon, 7 Mar 2011 20:27:42 +0000, SpamTrapSeeSig wrote:

So the answer most probably is that it IS terminated properly.

When connected. You don't have to worry terminating the output of a
switch port when you unplug a computer from a wall socket for
example.

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Cheers
Dave.

In article o.uk,
Dave Liquorice wrote:
ess it up for everybody.

Yes, but the reflections come from *unterminated* cable ends not
terminated ones.

and they can also come from sharp bends.

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Using a RISC OS computer running v5.16

In article , David Taylor
writes

You're missing the point...

Which was that we don't worry about reflections on 'unterminated' CAT5.

I think we have to, actually and it has to be properly terminated at the
devices.

It's common sense. Otherwise its performance will depend on cables being
a specific length (or multiples of same) :-)

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SimonM

In article o.uk, Dave
Liquorice writes
On Mon, 7 Mar 2011 20:27:42 +0000, SpamTrapSeeSig wrote:

So the answer most probably is that it IS terminated properly.

When connected. You don't have to worry terminating the output of a
switch port when you unplug a computer from a wall socket for
example.

Hubs/switches are buffered repeaters.
--
SimonM

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"SpamTrapSeeSig" wrote
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In article
, Arny
Krueger writes
This begs the question why we don't worry about
reflections on unterminated
CAT5. The reason is that each CAT5 cable connects only
2 points, and if one
point is disconnected, theres no other device whose
reception is adversely
affected by the reflections.

I don't think that's right.


Arny not right?

*Impossible* - just ask him!


Actually in this instance Arny *is* right. "SpamTrapSeeSig" misunderstood
the point.


Oh David, you're killing Keith. In his world I'm wrong until proven right.
;-)



It's the same for everybody in these newsgroups! ;-)

"charles" wrote in
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o.uk,
Dave Liquorice wrote:
ess it up for everybody.

Yes, but the reflections come from *unterminated* cable
ends not terminated ones.

and they can also come from sharp bends.

Which can be a problem with either coax or UTP.

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"SpamTrapSeeSig" wrote
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In article
, Arny
Krueger writes
This begs the question why we don't worry about
reflections on unterminated
CAT5. The reason is that each CAT5 cable connects
only 2 points, and if one
point is disconnected, theres no other device whose
reception is adversely
affected by the reflections.

I don't think that's right.


Arny not right?

*Impossible* - just ask him!


Actually in this instance Arny *is* right.
"SpamTrapSeeSig" misunderstood the point.


Oh David, you're killing Keith. In his world I'm wrong
until proven right. ;-)

It's the same for everybody in these newsgroups! ;-)

No. There are people here whose comments should be taken at face value.
And others who come close to deserving a blanket dismissal out of hand.