On 22/03/2011 16:53, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In ,
Keith wrote:
OK, how do you feel about having someone else in the room when you are
playing a CD *you* paid for? Do you think they should send a 'listening
fee' to the record company who released the CD?

Do I know the difference betweenmy arse and a hole in the ground?
Probably not

Fixed your post for you.

On 23/03/2011 11:23, Jim Lesurf wrote:

I thinkwhack
Who gives a ****

"Jim Lesurf" wrote

David, please take care never to send a CD to Keith. Not fair to try and
push him into doing what he actually said, or break his word, even
at the cost to you of a CD!


Don't worry Jim, there's very little chance that I'd ever send Keith a CD
:-)

David.

On 22/03/2011 12:59, Arny Krueger wrote:
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On 22/03/2011 11:56, Arny Krueger wrote:
"Keith wrote in message


If you gave me a CD, I would rip it to disk (256K) and
give the CD to the local Heart Shop....

Copyright law violation noted.

Yes, there's a fella on another NG who does this, except
he threatens a little more than make a personal note!

No threats, just an observation.


Ah OK, you 'note violations' in the course of observation!

The point is that the license to listen to the music on the CD is sold with
the CD and inseperable from it.

If you give away or sell the CD, you also give up your licence to listen to
the music.

If you keep the CD then you keep your license to listen to the music, which
you may exercise by listening to a backup of the media, such as the Mp3
file.


Yes, I don't want the CD though.

He insisted I destroy all the CDs I'd ripped, rather than
give to charity.

That doesn't work, either.


Ah, OK, didn't know that.

Obviously, there is no copyright police that are going to go around and
check on this.

However, copyright owners have been pretty sucessful at making public
examples of people they select randomly.


Yes, that's fine, I just don't happen to agree with the law. I'm not
disagreeing with you on that.

Rob

On 22/03/2011 12:35, David Looser wrote:
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On 22/03/2011 11:56, Arny Krueger wrote:
"Keith wrote in message


If you gave me a CD, I would rip it to disk (256K) and
give the CD to the local Heart Shop....

Copyright law violation noted.


Yes, there's a fella on another NG who does this, except he threatens a
little more than make a personal note!

He insisted I destroy all the CDs I'd ripped, rather than give to charity.
Not sure what he was threatening me with - never saw it through to my
knowledge at any rate.


Strictly speaking ripping a CD (or an LP for that matter) to a computer,
iPod etc. is a breach of copyright law. However the rights owners recognise
that with the advent of such media libraries people expect to be able to rip
music to them and have let it been known that they regard this as
permissible.

*However* they do expect people to have paid for the material they rip,
either by having bought the CD or LP or paying for a download. If you pass
the source media on to someone else they would expect you to delete the rip.
Not doing so is a clear breach of copyright law. Personally I think that to
be perfectly reasonable, ripping a CD and then passing it on is no better
than downloading without payment.


Yes, thanks, I knew all of that, with the exception of your moral position.

Rob

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On 22/03/2011 16:53, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In ,
Keith wrote:
OK, how do you feel about having someone else in the room when you are
playing a CD *you* paid for? Do you think they should send a 'listening
fee' to the record company who released the CD?

Do I know the difference betweenmy arse and a hole in the ground?
Probably not

Fixed your post for you.


:-)

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On 23/03/2011 11:23, Jim Lesurf wrote:

I thinkwhack
Who gives a ****


:-))


Love it, but I suspect I'm getting the blame for these 'anonymouse' posts!

;-)

"Rob" wrote


Yes, that's fine, I just don't happen to agree with the law.

So what do you think copyright law should be like?

David.

On 23/03/2011 18:05, David Looser wrote:
"Jim wrote

David, please take care never to send a CD to Keith. Not fair to try and
push him into doing what he actually said, or break his word, even
at the cost to you of a CD!


Don't worry Jim,

Arse licking noted.

"David Looser" wrote in message
...
"Jim Lesurf" wrote

David, please take care never to send a CD to Keith. Not fair to try and
push him into doing what he actually said, or break his word, even
at the cost to you of a CD!


Don't worry Jim, there's very little chance that I'd ever send Keith a CD
:-)


Er, no - there's *no* chance you would get to send me a CD, but you can send
one to your whiny *old biddy* chum, if you like - I've still got his address
from when I sent him a *pristine* set of Quad FM3/33/303 manuals and
literature (including console cut-out templates, IIRC) a few years back.

(Probably worth between 35 and 50 quid on eBay at the time - unsmartest move
I ever made, it turns out..!! ;-)