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This group is officially pronounced dead. It died from an overdose of
*******.

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On Thu, 26 May 2011 09:22:25 +0100, sender wrote:

This group is officially pronounced dead. It died from an overdose of
*******.


.... and most of the posters have gone deaf. :-)

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On 28/05/2011 09:20, mick wrote:
On Thu, 26 May 2011 09:22:25 +0100, sender wrote:

This group is officially pronounced dead. It died from an overdose of
*******.


... and most of the posters have gone deaf. :-)

....and blind too.

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Did someone call?

Actually if you listen to the commercial stations, and many bbc ones you
might be forgiven for thinking that real engineering of sound is a thing of
the past. its all left up to automatic computer controlled systems that make
a hash of it these days.

Brian

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"sender" wrote in message
eb.com...
On 28/05/2011 09:20, mick wrote:
On Thu, 26 May 2011 09:22:25 +0100, sender wrote:

This group is officially pronounced dead. It died from an overdose of
*******.


... and most of the posters have gone deaf. :-)

...and blind too.

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In article ,
Brian Gaff wrote:
Did someone call?

Actually if you listen to the commercial stations, and many bbc ones you
might be forgiven for thinking that real engineering of sound is a
thing of the past. its all left up to automatic computer controlled
systems that make a hash of it these days.

Indeed. Although TV - with its much larger operating budget - is a bigger
offender than radio. With HD services being the worst.
There's lots of talk about producing a meter which gives a true indication
of loudness. Since 'they' apparently can't even read a PPM, what
difference will that make? In any case, the best 'meter' to use is ears.

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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On Mon, 30 May 2011 09:59:54 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Brian Gaff wrote:
Did someone call?

Actually if you listen to the commercial stations, and many bbc ones you
might be forgiven for thinking that real engineering of sound is a
thing of the past. its all left up to automatic computer controlled
systems that make a hash of it these days.

Indeed. Although TV - with its much larger operating budget - is a bigger
offender than radio. With HD services being the worst.
There's lots of talk about producing a meter which gives a true indication
of loudness. Since 'they' apparently can't even read a PPM, what
difference will that make? In any case, the best 'meter' to use is ears.

Robert Orban has produced a meter that I find a pretty good estimation
of actual loudness. He has a free beta on his web site here

http://www.orban.com/meter/

I actually find local radio (BBC 94.9) the worst offenders. When a
talk programme inserts a bit of music, it appears to be routed through
the speech compressors - the result is virtually unlistenable and I
generally switch off at that point. Seasickness is the best
approximation I can give to the result.

Strange coincidence maybe, but misuse of Orban's Optimod system is
almost single-handedly responsible for all of the nastiness.

d

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In article ,
Don Pearce wrote:
Strange coincidence maybe, but misuse of Orban's Optimod system is
almost single-handedly responsible for all of the nastiness.

Indeed - some seem to think it will sort out anything stuffed into it. But
like any tool it needs a skilled operator for the best results.

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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"mick" wrote in message
eb.com...
On Thu, 26 May 2011 09:22:25 +0100, sender wrote:

This group is officially pronounced dead. It died from an overdose of
*******.


... and most of the posters have gone deaf. :-)

--
Mick (Working in a M$-free zone!)
Web: http://www.nascom.info
Filtering everything posted from googlegroups to kill spam.

Seems like the sorts of noises I might expect of Friends of Kieth. :-(

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In article , Arny
Krueger
wrote:

"mick" wrote in message
eb.com...
On Thu, 26 May 2011 09:22:25 +0100, sender wrote:

This group is officially pronounced dead. It died from an overdose of
*******.


... and most of the posters have gone deaf. :-)

-- Mick (Working in a M$-free zone!) Web:
http://www.nascom.info Filtering everything posted from googlegroups
to kill spam.

Seems like the sorts of noises I might expect of Friends of Kieth. :-(

Not sure which of the above your comment relates to. I'm also working in a
'house with no Windows', but I'm not sure Keith thinks I am his 'friend'
these days. So far as I am concerned, not using Windows is simply a matter
of personal choice. As is deciding what postings aren't worth responding
to... :-)

Slainte,

Jim

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In article , Brian Gaff
scribeth thus
Did someone call?

Actually if you listen to the commercial stations, and many bbc ones you
might be forgiven for thinking that real engineering of sound is a thing of
the past. its all left up to automatic computer controlled systems that make
a hash of it these days.

The computers as such only do what there're told to. Where a lot of the
audio problems are is audio MPEG coding of the source audio then sending
that down compressed lines and then processing that ....

... Not good .. as Captain Jack Sparrow would say;!...


Brian


--
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In article , Dave Plowman (News)
scribeth thus
In article ,
Don Pearce wrote:
Strange coincidence maybe, but misuse of Orban's Optimod system is
almost single-handedly responsible for all of the nastiness.

Indeed - some seem to think it will sort out anything stuffed into it. But
like any tool it needs a skilled operator for the best results.

It 'errm um doesn't need operating as such .. its set then left..
--
Tony Sayer

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On Mon, 30 May 2011 09:26:07 -0400, Arny Krueger wrote:

"mick" wrote in message
eb.com...
On Thu, 26 May 2011 09:22:25 +0100, sender wrote:

This group is officially pronounced dead. It died from an overdose of
*******.


... and most of the posters have gone deaf. :-)

--
Mick (Working in a M$-free zone!) Web:
http://www.nascom.info
Filtering everything posted from googlegroups to kill spam.

Seems like the sorts of noises I might expect of Friends of Kieth. :-(


I'm not sure that I've ever officially joined that set, Arny :-).
However, I'm a regular lurker & very occasional contributor on here (have
been for a long time). My choice to use something other than MS Windows
is irrelevant. Also I noticed previously that most of the posts sent via
Google Groups were just junk. That's why I filtered them. Have they
improved?

--
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Web: http://www.nascom.info
Filtering everything posted from googlegroups to kill spam.

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In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
In article , Dave Plowman (News)
scribeth thus
In article ,
Don Pearce wrote:
Strange coincidence maybe, but misuse of Orban's Optimod system is
almost single-handedly responsible for all of the nastiness.

Indeed - some seem to think it will sort out anything stuffed into it.
But like any tool it needs a skilled operator for the best results.

It 'errm um doesn't need operating as such .. its set then left..

It needs an operator to set it up. Judging by some I've heard it's left to
the work experience type who's set on being the tea boy.

Nor will it help with stuff that's already overmodded being fed into it.

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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On 30/05/2011 16:16, Jim Lesurf wrote:
In article0vKdnSzRnvtpB37QnZ2dnUVZ_oydnZ2d@giganews. com, Arny
Krueger
wrote:

wrote in message
eb.com...
On Thu, 26 May 2011 09:22:25 +0100, sender wrote:

This group is officially pronounced dead. It died from an overdose of
*******.


... and most of the posters have gone deaf. :-)

-- Mick (Working in a M$-free zone!) Web:
http://www.nascom.info Filtering everything posted from googlegroups
to kill spam.

Seems like the sorts of noises I might expect of Friends of Kieth. :-(

Not sure which of the above your comment relates to.

Try to learn the difference between an untrimmed signature and a post. I
do realize this might tax your feeble Scotch intellect.

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In article m,
sender wrote:
Try to learn the difference between an untrimmed signature and a post. I
do realize this might tax your feeble Scotch intellect.

From: sender
Subject: dead
Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 09:20
Newsgroups: uk.rec.audio

This group is officially pronounced dead. It died from an overdose of
*******.

No comment needed.

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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On 31/05/2011 11:04, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In aweb.com,
wrote:
Try to learn the difference between an untrimmed signature and a post. I
do realize this might tax your feeble Scotch intellect.

From:
Subject: dead
Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 09:20
Newsgroups: uk.rec.audio

This group is officially pronounced dead. It died from an overdose of
*******.

No comment needed.

So don't make one then dopey********.

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"sender" wrote in message
b.com...
snip

Try to learn the difference between an untrimmed signature and a post. I
do realize this might tax your feeble Scotch intellect.

I'm sure I've pointed this out to you before, but "Scotch" is an alcoholic
drink,
not a nationality.
But this group is indeed dead, just checked after a couple of weeks and even
the groups established clique have run out of things to say or are not
talking
to one another?
But Jim has at last cottoned onto the importance of impedance matching......
(That should result in a flurry of angry retorts from the clique?).

This is not the froop for this but installed an LG Blu-Ray burner on a Win7
64bit
machine, (49 quid from yoyo) all criteria is met, used Cyberlink
compatibility advisor
executable, flashed firmware blah blah, but sigh, not going to plan. Bugger!

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In article ,
FedupLurker wrote:
I'm sure I've pointed this out to you before, but "Scotch" is an
alcoholic drink, not a nationality.

Only to sassenachs.

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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In article , FedupLurker
wrote:


"sender" wrote in message
b.com... snip

Try to learn the difference between an untrimmed signature and a post.
I do realize this might tax your feeble Scotch intellect.

I'm sure I've pointed this out to you before, but "Scotch" is an
alcoholic drink, not a nationality.

I was assuming he (?) was meaning intellect that had been enfeebled by the
drinking of 'Scotch'. :-) However FWIW I'd associate that with de-icer
liquids like popular grain mix brand name deleted, etc. I did once clean
the ice off our path with an unwanted bottle of that some innocent had
given to me thinking it was worth drinking.

My preference tended to be for single malts. I did also enjoy some of the
various wood cask finished versions. The Balvenie Port Wood 21 year was a
favourite.

But Jim has at last cottoned onto the importance of impedance
matching...... (That should result in a flurry of angry retorts from the
clique?).

No idea who would be angry as I have no idea what you mean. Maybe the angry
retorts will enlighten me on that.

This is not the froop for this but installed an LG Blu-Ray burner on a
Win7 64bit machine, (49 quid from yoyo) all criteria is met, used
Cyberlink compatibility advisor executable, flashed firmware blah blah,
but sigh, not going to plan. Bugger!

The "Win7" part made me lose interest in the rest... :-)

Slainte,

Jim

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"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message ...


Try to learn the difference between an untrimmed signature and a post.
I do realize this might tax your feeble Scotch intellect.

I'm sure I've pointed this out to you before, but "Scotch" is an
alcoholic drink, not a nationality.

I was assuming he (?) was meaning intellect that had been enfeebled by the
drinking of 'Scotch'. :-) However FWIW I'd associate that with de-icer
liquids like popular grain mix brand name deleted, etc. I did once clean
the ice off our path with an unwanted bottle of that some innocent had
given to me thinking it was worth drinking.

Here in London we don't de-ice our drives ourselves, we have east European
immigrants who will de-ice a whole street for a six pack of Stella and 50
grams
of Old Holborn. And down here in the south it only gets icy in the winter.

My preference tended to be for single malts. I did also enjoy some of the
various wood cask finished versions. The Balvenie Port Wood 21 year was a
favourite.

The Belvenie was never a favourite of mine but it could be perked by topping
with cola and two chunks of ice, no doubt you like it that way?

But Jim has at last cottoned onto the importance of impedance
matching...... (That should result in a flurry of angry retorts from the
clique?).

No idea who would be angry as I have no idea what you mean.

That doesn't surprise me...

Maybe the angry retorts will enlighten me on that.

.... If only.

This is not the froop for this but installed an LG Blu-Ray burner on a
Win7 64bit machine, (49 quid from yoyo) all criteria is met, used
Cyberlink compatibility advisor executable, flashed firmware blah blah,
but sigh, not going to plan. Bugger!

It seems a bit of shouting and cursing at it seems to have done the trick,
booted an hour back and it now recognises all blank media.

The "Win7" part made me lose interest in the rest... :-)

But Jim, over priced/under spec Apple hardware is for girls or men who
wear pink ties. Linux is for old blokes with too much time to spare, but
Windows is for real men.

Slainte,

Jim

--
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http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm
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Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html

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In article , FedupLurker
wrote:


"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message ...



My preference tended to be for single malts. I did also enjoy some of
the various wood cask finished versions. The Balvenie Port Wood 21
year was a favourite.

The Belvenie was never a favourite of mine but it could be perked by
topping with cola and two chunks of ice, no doubt you like it that way?

Ice, yes. Cola, no. if you are going to add cola then you might as well use
de-icer and max the experience. :-)



The "Win7" part made me lose interest in the rest... :-)

But Jim, over priced/under spec Apple hardware is for girls or men who
wear pink ties. Linux is for old blokes with too much time to spare, but
Windows is for real men.

Reminds me of 'Nice Try'. :-)

Slainte,

Jim

--
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Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html

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"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message ...

In article , FedupLurker
wrote:
"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message ...

My preference tended to be for single malts. I did also enjoy some of
the various wood cask finished versions. The Balvenie Port Wood 21
year was a favourite.

The Belvenie was never a favourite of mine but it could be perked by
topping with cola and two chunks of ice, no doubt you like it that way?

Ice, yes. Cola, no. if you are going to add cola then you might as well
use
de-icer and max the experience. :-)

I was trying to catch you out, but you passed with flying colours.
If one is to top up a 40% proof drinky then one may as well opt
for the cheapest on the off license shelves.
Your editor was once the tech ed on a mag where the reviews bloke
by name of Nobby liked Speyside topped up with Babycham, which is
OK with me, Nobby was the type of bloke who didn't view his day as
complete unless he had a couple of empty bottles to show for it.
His priority was to maintain that fine journalistic tradition of chronic
alcoholism. Your Ed will remember Nobby, though I don't know whats
happened to him, if I could recall his real name I'd google him?
I note your Ed raving about your USB testing, so when are you going to
try a bit of NOS'ing? It's all very well you muddling with Linux - or maybe
you get your rocks off with open source software that never quite
functions correctly? But there is wide world of fun to be had out here
and disabling digital filtering opens up a whole new vista to enjoy.
I currently have a Marantz CD50 (TDA1541) ready to be NOS'd.

I've been trying to catch up with the posts in here, but I think usenet
is on it's last legs and about to kick the bucket any day now? It seems
it is just clusters of nutters now?

The "Win7" part made me lose interest in the rest... :-)

But Jim, over priced/under spec Apple hardware is for girls or men who
wear pink ties. Linux is for old blokes with too much time to spare, but
Windows is for real men.

Reminds me of 'Nice Try'. :-)

I'm sure you say that everytime you attempt installing open source software.


Slainte,

Jim

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In article , FedupLurker
wrote:


"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message ...



But Jim, over priced/under spec Apple hardware is for girls or men
who wear pink ties. Linux is for old blokes with too much time to
spare, but Windows is for real men.

Reminds me of 'Nice Try'. :-)

I'm sure you say that everytime you attempt installing open source
software.

Depends what you mean. I certainly do find that software often omits things
I'd want, or has flaws, or doesn't do what I want the *way* I want. This is
true for closed-source as well as open-source in my experience. The
advantage of open source is that you can then decide if you wish to modify
what was provided or nick bits to modify. And quite often you can talk to
the programmers and they will make changes to meet a sensible request.

Also if, like myself, you may need to check how results were obtained from
raw data, so you sometimes need to know the details of how a computation
was done to verify the results. Closed-source packages can get in the way
of that.

To give an example. At present I'm doing some comparisions of SACD with
other sources. That SACD sets out to impede access to the raw data is
a PITA if you want to assess its limitations or possible flaws.

FWIW The worst item of software I ever bought was closed source, costly,
and simply didn't do what the author said. He then said he'd fix this, but
later on simply left the market. Only having the compiled code and it being
'commercial' then made it impractical to fix or alter. So money down the
loo so far as I was concerned. But that doesn't meant all closed-source or
paid-for software is poor. Most of the software I use on a daily basis is
closed-source and paid-for, and works fine. Oh, and isn't running on Linux,
either. ;- Like anyone with any sense, I just do what suits me best.
Happy to leave others to their own choices.

Anyway, this is why Ghod gave us GCC. Teach a man to fish. :-)

So my comment about losing interest when Win7 was mentioned meant what it
said. No more, no less. I don't use it, and have no interest in it. If
others do, that is fine with me.

Slainte,

Jim

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In article ,
FedupLurker wrote:
If one is to top up a 40% proof drinky then one may as well opt
for the cheapest on the off license shelves.

Not so - unless the mixer is designed to obliterate the taste of the
spirit rather than complement it. Certainly the case with a G&T.

BTW, many experience malt whisky drinkers add some water.

--
*Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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In article , Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:
In article , FedupLurker
wrote:
If one is to top up a 40% proof drinky then one may as well opt for
the cheapest on the off license shelves.

Not so - unless the mixer is designed to obliterate the taste of the
spirit rather than complement it. Certainly the case with a G&T.

BTW, many experience malt whisky drinkers add some water.

That is also my experience, especially with the ones suppled as 'cask
strength'. Having a small amount of water or ice can make it easier to
taste the distinctive features of the particular malt/finish.

Slainte,

Jim

--
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Le 21/06/11 16:21, Jim Lesurf a écrit :
In article , Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:
In article , FedupLurker
wrote:
If one is to top up a 40% proof drinky then one may as well opt for
the cheapest on the off license shelves.

Not so - unless the mixer is designed to obliterate the taste of the
spirit rather than complement it. Certainly the case with a G&T.

BTW, many experience malt whisky drinkers add some water.

That is also my experience, especially with the ones suppled as 'cask
strength'. Having a small amount of water or ice can make it easier to
taste the distinctive features of the particular malt/finish.

Slainte,

Jim


I always thought that putting ice or water in a single malt was still a
hanging offence in your neck of the woods!

:-)

--
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Baldrick: I've got this big growth in the middle of my face.
Blackadder: That's your nose, Baldrick.

(Blackadder the Third)

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In article ,
froggy wrote:
I always thought that putting ice or water in a single malt was still a
hanging offence in your neck of the woods!

Yet another urban myth surrounding whisky. At one time if you bought a
decent whisky in a bar you'd get a small jug of water with it.

--
*Many people quit looking for work when they find a job *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 10:18:36 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
froggy wrote:
I always thought that putting ice or water in a single malt was still a
hanging offence in your neck of the woods!

Yet another urban myth surrounding whisky. At one time if you bought a
decent whisky in a bar you'd get a small jug of water with it.

Not to mention that the stuff is already 60% water straight from the
bottle.

d

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On 25/06/2011 10:48, Don Pearce wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 10:18:36 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In ,
wrote:
I always thought that putting ice or water in a single malt was still a
hanging offence in your neck of the woods!

Yet another urban myth surrounding whisky. At one time if you bought a
decent whisky in a bar you'd get a small jug of water with it.

Not to mention that the ****e is already 60% water straight from the
bottle.

I reconfigured you post for you, no need to thank me it's a free service.

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In article , Don Pearce
wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 10:18:36 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article , froggy
wrote:
I always thought that putting ice or water in a single malt was still
a hanging offence in your neck of the woods!

Yet another urban myth surrounding whisky. At one time if you bought a
decent whisky in a bar you'd get a small jug of water with it.

Not to mention that the stuff is already 60% water straight from the
bottle.

And the level of alcohol is only one of the lesser aspects of the taste.
Can easily impede appreciating other more subtle aspects. So in my
experience many of those who have an interest in the range of good malts
will add some water or some ice. Depends on the drinker and the drink. So
you might treat a Lagavulin differently to a Laphroig or a Bruichladdich,
according to your preferences. I always added water to Old Fettercairn as
it tastes fairly 'pencil shavings' to me. But many around the Edzell area
might disagree with me.

I suspect the myth about never adding water may have grown from the
'serious drinking' in some bars where it would be a test of manhood to
drink as much, as strong, and as quickly, as possible. So for those who
have no interest in the taste, only in quantity, capacity, and speed of
intoxification.

Slainte,

Jim

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Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm
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"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
...

I suspect the myth about never adding water may have grown from the
'serious drinking' in some bars where it would be a test of manhood to
drink as much, as strong, and as quickly, as possible. So for those who
have no interest in the taste, only in quantity, capacity, and speed of
intoxification.

Reminds me of the episode of "Red Dwarf" where the crew enter a
stereotypical "wild-west" bar full of drunken, fighting cowboys and Rimmer
asks the barman for "a white wine and a glass of Perrier water".

David.

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"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message ...

In article , Don Pearce
wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 10:18:36 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article , froggy
wrote:
I always thought that putting ice or water in a single malt was still
a hanging offence in your neck of the woods!

Yet another urban myth surrounding whisky. At one time if you bought a
decent whisky in a bar you'd get a small jug of water with it.

Not to mention that the stuff is already 60% water straight from the
bottle.

And the level of alcohol is only one of the lesser aspects of the taste.
Can easily impede appreciating other more subtle aspects. So in my
experience many of those who have an interest in the range of good malts
will add some water or some ice. Depends on the drinker and the drink. So
you might treat a Lagavulin differently to a Laphroig or a Bruichladdich,
according to your preferences. I always added water to Old Fettercairn as
it tastes fairly 'pencil shavings' to me. But many around the Edzell area
might disagree with me.

I suspect the myth about never adding water may have grown from the
'serious drinking' in some bars where it would be a test of manhood to
drink as much, as strong, and as quickly, as possible. So for those who
have no interest in the taste, only in quantity, capacity, and speed of
intoxification.

Slainte,

Jim

Well said. I've always found a small dash of water helps to release the
flavours. Personally I'm not keen on ice as I find it dulls the taste, but
each to his own.

Our friends across the ocean have come up with concept of "bourbon and
branch water" where the water has to come from the branch of two rivers on
their way downstream. A slight whiff of Russ Andrews here (slight attempt
to get back to UKRA).

There was a fashion about 40 years ago for Scotch mixed with milk. If you
went into any bar in Edinburgh you were served with a small jug of milk
rather than water. I tried it once, and found it rather nice. Re the
"serious drinking" - the more recent fashion for "snorting" whisky - i.e. a
straw up your nose and ingest the whisky. Oh lawdie.

Geoff Mackenzie (using my full name for once in order to establish
credibility on matters Scottish!).

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Geoff Mackenzie wrote:
There was a fashion about 40 years ago for Scotch mixed with milk. If
you went into any bar in Edinburgh you were served with a small jug of
milk rather than water. I tried it once, and found it rather nice.

An alcoholic barman at my local used to drink milk with spirits. Any
spirits he could get his hands on. I assumed it was more to neutralise the
acidic effects on his stomach. He's dead now, of course.

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I suspect the myth about never adding water may have grown from the
'serious drinking' in some bars where it would be a test of manhood to
drink as much, as strong, and as quickly, as possible. So for those who
have no interest in the taste, only in quantity, capacity, and speed of
intoxification.

Slainte,

Jim

As usual, no matter the topic you bunch think you're the experts.
Just chuck it down and get on with it.
Nobby Sircom would drink the lot of you under the table.

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FedupLurker wrote:
As usual, no matter the topic you bunch think you're the experts.
Just chuck it down and get on with it.
Nobby Sircom would drink the lot of you under the table.

Typical response of someone with a drink problem. Any alcohol will do.

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On 27/06/2011 19:09, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In ,
wrote:
As usual, no matter the topic you bunch think you're the experts.
Just chuck it down and get on with it.
Nobby Sircom would drink the lot of you under the table.

Typical response... //slap

Dave Dopey******** swings his massive intellect into action with a typically
inane usenet post.

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Le 25/06/11 15:13, Jim Lesurf a écrit :


I suspect the myth about never adding water may have grown from the
'serious drinking' in some bars where it would be a test of manhood to
drink as much, as strong, and as quickly, as possible. So for those who
have no interest in the taste, only in quantity, capacity, and speed of
intoxification.


That's me told then!

:-)

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On 27/06/2011 19:09, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In ,
wrote:
As usual, no matter the topic you bunch think you're the experts.
Just chuck it down and get on with it.
Nobby Sircom would drink the lot of you under the table.

Typical response... //slap

Dave Dopey******** swings his massive intellect into action with a
typically inane usenet post.

Are you looking in a mirror when you post?

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On 28/06/2011 09:50, Dave (dopey********) Plowman (News) wrote:
In articleO9WdnQKo2Z9nVZXTnZ2dnUVZ8sCdnZ2d@brightvie w.co.uk,
wrote:
On 27/06/2011 19:09, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
wrote:
As usual, no matter the topic you bunch think you're the experts.
Just chuck it down and get on with it.
Nobby Sircom would drink the lot of you under the table.

Typical response... //slap

Dave Dopey******** swings his massive intellect into action with a
typically inane usenet post.

Are you looking in a mirror when you post?

That was witty Dave, about as witty as the drivel you put in your spectacularly
stupid sigs.

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In article ,
FedupLurker wrote:
As usual, no matter the topic you bunch think you're the experts.
Just chuck it down and get on with it.
Nobby Sircom would drink the lot of you under the table.

Typical response of someone with a drink problem. Any alcohol will do.

At last some recognition for my legendary alcoholism! Now maybe I'll get
the respect around here that is long overdue.

I'm a bit puzzled re your silliness about Malts, your high camp indignant
posts to this group always conjured an image of you with a Pina Colada
with a tiny parasol floating with a slice of pineapple wedged on the rim
and you in a mankini?