....another week goes by without a post to uk.rec audio, aka uk.rec.norwegian.blue
Still maybe Jimbo will post soon about the results of his harmonic
discombobulation tests on digital octifiers.



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In article ,
blue wrote:
...another week goes by without a post to uk.rec audio, aka
uk.rec.norwegian.blue

The reason is simple. To many posts which are nothing to do with audio.

Still maybe Jimbo will post soon about the results
of his harmonic discombobulation tests on digital octifiers.

And, of course, smart arses who rubbish those which are...

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In article , Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:
In article , blue
wrote:
...another week goes by without a post to uk.rec audio, aka
uk.rec.norwegian.blue

The reason is simple. To many posts which are nothing to do with audio.

Maybe we should do some 'blogging' more about audio. So if anyone is
interested, I've spent the morning saying a fond farewell to my
c25-year-old ESL63s and installing a new pair of 2805s as their
replacements. My main initial impressions a

1) gave them a quick tryout with a Proms recording (Kodaly and Bartok 1st
Piano concerto, recorded from the 320k stream a few days ago). Also as
contrast some Miles Davis from a fancy reissue of 'Kind of Blue' and the
'Miles Ahead' set of the Prestige album releases. Sound OK so far to me.
Although I'll now spend weeks fiddling with speaker location, etc, :-)

2) Problem with unpacking as the instructions on how to do this are inside
the pack! 8-] Then the problem of disposing/storing the mountains of
packaging.

3) Nice to see white gloves provided so you don't mark the speakers. Not
that I bothered.

4)...and a bonus copy of KK's book on Quad. I now have a 'stereo pair' of
copies... ;-

5) I had thought the new speakers would visually 'stand out' more than the
old ones given the metallic surround. But they do fade back OK due to the
design and the 'black' cloth, etc.

BTW I'm very impressed with the sound of the Proms this year via the 320k
stream. Varies from concert to concert, but overall, really nice.
Congratulations to the BBC.

Slainte,

Jim

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On 28/07/2011 12:53, Jim Lesurf wrote:
In , Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:
In articlexcqdnXAjYbvjl6zTnZ2dnUVZ7qidnZ2d@brightvie w.co.uk, blue
wrote:
...another week goes by without a post to uk.rec audio, aka
uk.rec.norwegian.blue

The reason is simple. To many posts which are nothing to do with audio.

Maybe we should do some 'blogging' more about audio. So if anyone is
interested, I've spent the morning saying a fond farewell to my
c25-year-old ESL63s and installing a new pair of 2805s as their
replacements. My main initial impressions a

1) gave them a quick tryout with a Proms recording (Kodaly and Bartok 1st
Piano concerto, recorded from the 320k stream a few days ago). Also as
contrast some Miles Davis from a fancy reissue of 'Kind of Blue' and the
'Miles Ahead' set of the Prestige album releases. Sound OK so far to me.
Although I'll now spend weeks fiddling with speaker location, etc, :-)

2) Problem with unpacking as the instructions on how to do this are inside
the pack! 8-] Then the problem of disposing/storing the mountains of
packaging.

3) Nice to see white gloves provided so you don't mark the speakers. Not
that I bothered.

4)...and a bonus copy of KK's book on Quad. I now have a 'stereo pair' of
copies... ;-

5) I had thought the new speakers would visually 'stand out' more than the
old ones given the metallic surround. But they do fade back OK due to the
design and the 'black' cloth, etc.

BTW I'm very impressed with the sound of the Proms this year via the 320k
stream. Varies from concert to concert, but overall, really nice.
Congratulations to the BBC.


Quite promising actually.

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On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 12:53:39 +0100, Jim Lesurf
wrote:

BTW I'm very impressed with the sound of the Proms this year via the 320k
stream. Varies from concert to concert, but overall, really nice.
Congratulations to the BBC.

Slainte,

Jim

Freeview HD carried the first night in Dolby surround. They caught the
RAH ambience very well, I thought.

d

In article , Don Pearce
wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 12:53:39 +0100, Jim Lesurf
wrote:

BTW I'm very impressed with the sound of the Proms this year via the
320k stream. Varies from concert to concert, but overall, really nice.
Congratulations to the BBC.

Slainte,

Jim

Freeview HD carried the first night in Dolby surround. They caught the
RAH ambience very well, I thought.

I'd love to be able compare with R3 on Freeview again. But up here in
t'frozen North the BBC have removed R3 from DVB-T in the evenings!
Fortunately, the 320k iPlayer stream is excellent.

Slainte,

Jim

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Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html

In article ,
Jim Lesurf wrote:
I'd love to be able compare with R3 on Freeview again. But up here in
t'frozen North the BBC have removed R3 from DVB-T in the evenings!
Fortunately, the 320k iPlayer stream is excellent.

What 'gem' are you offered in its place?

I fairly recently wanted to watch BBC1 Scotland - a play which was only on
that. So via satellite. I'd guess you could always find R3 via that too.

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On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 12:53:39 +0100, Jim Lesurf wrote:

Maybe we should do some 'blogging' more about audio. So if anyone is
interested, I've spent the morning saying a fond farewell to my
c25-year-old ESL63s and installing a new pair of 2805s as their
replacements. My main initial impressions a

Jim,

I hope that you have better luck than me! I am currently on my fourth set
of 2805s. All of them have developed internal arcing - one of the latest
pair started doing this as soon as they were installed.

Regrettably, it looks very likely that I will be going back to my forty-
year old 57s. This is a great pity because in all other respects the
2805s sound wonderful.


Chris.

In article , Chris
Isbell
wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 12:53:39 +0100, Jim Lesurf wrote:

Maybe we should do some 'blogging' more about audio. So if anyone is
interested, I've spent the morning saying a fond farewell to my
c25-year-old ESL63s and installing a new pair of 2805s as their
replacements. My main initial impressions a

Jim,

I hope that you have better luck than me! I am currently on my fourth
set of 2805s. All of them have developed internal arcing - one of the
latest pair started doing this as soon as they were installed.

Well, the bad news is that when I switched them on this morning one speaker
didn't power up. :-

Fuse had blown. I tried another similar fuse and this also blew. The
speakers had worked fine all yesterday.

I went direct to source and have been discussing it with Quad this morning.
I'm told that this is probably the mains transformer and a new one is on
the way. I'll know more once I've had a go at trying that. They said that
if I have any problem or doubts they'll send someone out to fix it. But -
since they know I'm an engineer who knows which end of a soldering iron
*not* to hold - it is a job I can probably sort out myself more quickly if
I prefer. If so, that suits me as it also gives me an excuse to learn a bit
about the innards. Its a chance I'd have preferred not to have needed so
soon, though... I'll decide when the transformer and info on how to do the
replacement arrive.

How did the arcing show up and what were the symptoms, etc?

I've had an assortement of repetitive clickings and buzzings at times in
the past from 63s and 988s. But this always passed after a day or two and
my understanding is that it is fairly normal. It didn't cause a shutdown or
problem beyond the faint noises when not in use.

Regrettably, it looks very likely that I will be going back to my forty-
year old 57s. This is a great pity because in all other respects the
2805s sound wonderful.

For me the worry is that I no longer have the 63s. So am now reliant on the
2805s for the main system. The 63s were showing their age in various ways.
In particular a level of hum/buzz from the speakers that had slowly been
getting louder over the last year or two. I guess various caps needed
replacement. But (perhaps unwisely) decided that after 25 years it was time
to try the new version rather than have a refurb.

Oh well, the 988s still sound good, and I can use headphones or my ancient
cone-and-box speakers (Armstrong 602s) for a while.

Slainte,

Jim

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On 29 Jul, wrote:


I went direct to source and have been discussing it with Quad this
morning. I'm told that this is probably the mains transformer and a new
one is on the way. I'll know more once I've had a go at trying that.
T... I'll decide when the transformer and info on how to do the
replacement arrive.

A couple of replacement transformers arrived this morning. Along with some
63mA fuses. The next step is for me to go out and buy some curtain rod as
this is a tool required to take apart the 2805s! 8-

Nice to see that Quad have remained as of old in various ways. The parts
were sent asap, with apologies and helpful advice. And dissassembling /
assembling their equipment tends to be a bit 'around the houses'.

I still remember how funny it seemed at the time how you had to open and
close the box of a 405! The 2805 seems like that on steroids. :-)

Slainte,

Jim

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Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm
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