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Iain Churches[_2_] October 6th 11 03:02 PM

Speaker drive unit replacement.
 

"Phil Allison" wrote in message
...

"Brian Gaff"

Ah a person who is tactful insightful and calm obviously, you should be
in customer services.


** I am. I run my own business.

Fools with damn silly questions on the phone get a good earful.

Had one today.

Wanted to know the cost of a 120V to 240V internal conversion in some
obscure USA amp he just bought on eBay.

Over the phone.

Strewth !!


No cigar for customer relations, Phil:-)

Instead of your "giving an earful" a
smart tech would have replied: "Bring the
unit in for an estimate, which will cost 50e
and will be deducted from the final bill if
you have the work done"

Iain



David Brown October 6th 11 03:10 PM

Speaker drive unit replacement.
 
"Phil Allison" wrote in message ...

** If you were a service tech Jim, you would FIRST suspect a foreign
object.


It's an electric piano - so the speakers typically face
upwards through a slotted grille that small objects
can fall through.


Makes a nasty distorted sound that is very level and note dependant.


Well in this case and with most and possibly all Technics pianos, they face
downwards so pretty unlikely.

D


Phil Allison[_2_] October 6th 11 03:18 PM

Speaker drive unit replacement.
 

"Iain Churchus is a ****ing MORON "

** I run my own business.

Fools with damn silly questions on the phone get a good earful.

Had one today.

Wanted to know the cost of a 120V to 240V internal conversion in some
obscure USA amp he just bought on eBay.

Over the phone.

Strewth !!


Instead of your "giving an earful" a
smart tech would have replied: "Bring the
unit in for an estimate, which will cost 50e
and will be deducted from the final bill if
you have the work done"



** My standing offer is a free appraisal.

But that was not good enough.

Learn to read you ****ing IDIOT.



..... Phil





Phil Allison[_2_] October 6th 11 03:21 PM

Speaker drive unit replacement.
 

"David Brown Nose "

** If you were a service tech Jim, you would FIRST suspect a foreign
object.


It's an electric piano - so the speakers typically face
upwards through a slotted grille that small objects
can fall through.


Makes a nasty distorted sound that is very level and note dependant.


Well in this case and with most and possibly all Technics pianos, they
face downwards so pretty unlikely.



** As if a bull****ing, tu-tu wearing fairy like YOU would know.









Iain Churches[_2_] October 6th 11 03:46 PM

Speaker drive unit replacement.
 

"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
...

However the 'buzz' does seem like a speaker problem.


Jim. I received an e-mail in reply to my post
in this thread, from a UK service tech in
Hertforshire.

He told how he too had removed a suspect speaker that
rattled and buzzed, from a Roland stage piano, just as I
had done.

As he took the speaker out, something that had been
wedged between the cone and the spider, fell to the floor.
It was a nickel-brass threepenny bit, of 1953 vintage.

One wonders how it got there. It predates
the piano by more than forty years.

I know little about numismatics, but I wondered
which was worth more, the coin or the piano-)


Iain






Jim Lesurf[_2_] October 6th 11 05:04 PM

Speaker drive unit replacement.
 
In article , Iain Churches
wrote:

"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
...


However the 'buzz' does seem like a speaker problem.


Jim. I received an e-mail in reply to my post in this thread, from a
UK service tech in Hertforshire.


He told how he too had removed a suspect speaker that rattled and
buzzed, from a Roland stage piano, just as I had done.


As he took the speaker out, something that had been wedged between the
cone and the spider, fell to the floor. It was a nickel-brass threepenny
bit, of 1953 vintage.


Alas, that means I can't do a joke about "at that point, the penny
dropped". :-)

One wonders how it got there. It predates the piano by more than forty
years.


Ghost in the Machine? 8-]

Or maybe a passerby throwing an old coin into the piano thinking of the old
'prepared piano' works. Do you think those with a preference for 'period
performance' would argue that coins of the vintage of the *composition*
would be required even for an electric piano?

I know little about numismatics, but I wondered which was worth more,
the coin or the piano-)


Our piano is a 'pianola', alas with the mechanism in something of a mess
due to all the rubber, etc, perishing. I think I have some thrupenny bits
somewhere. I've assumed they aren't particularly valuable, however I'm no
numasmatist, either!

That said, I seem to increasingly confirm my own view that we find
'history' more interesting as we come to recall being present for more of
it. Hence the page I put up recently on Concorde 001 and the 1973 Eclipse.
Which *is* slightly on-topic here. I used a Revox A77 as the data recorder.
I still have the tape, but not the recorder. :-)

Slainte,

Jim

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Phil Allison[_2_] October 7th 11 01:34 AM

Speaker drive unit replacement.
 

"Iain Churchus = Nong "

He told how he too had removed a suspect speaker that
rattled and buzzed, from a Roland stage piano, just as I
had done.

As he took the speaker out, something that had been
wedged between the cone and the spider, fell to the floor.
It was a nickel-brass threepenny bit, of 1953 vintage.

One wonders how it got there.



** The gap above the keys would allow a coin inside.

Then the piano gets moved around.


It predates the piano by more than forty years.



** So ****ing what ?



..... Phil






Iain Churches[_2_] October 7th 11 06:43 AM

Speaker drive unit replacement.
 

"Phil Allison" wrote in message
...

He told how he too had removed a suspect speaker that
rattled and buzzed, from a Roland stage piano, just as I
had done.

As he took the speaker out, something that had been
wedged between the cone and the spider, fell to the floor.
It was a nickel-brass threepenny bit, of 1953 vintage.

One wonders how it got there.



** The gap above the keys would allow a coin inside.


Take a careful look, Phil. There is no such
gap above the keys on a Roland stage piano through
which a coin could pass. The threepenny piece was quite
a thick coin.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/nickatkins/389094871/

However, removing the note stand reveals that it
fits into two slots reminiscent of that on a money box.

Insults and stupidty snipped.
It's a pity that rational discussion is
beyond you, Phil. You might learn
something:-)

Iain




Phil Allison[_2_] October 7th 11 06:49 AM

Speaker drive unit replacement.
 

"Iain Churchus is a LIAR"

One wonders how it got there.



** The gap above the keys would allow a coin inside.


Take a careful look, Phil. There is no such
gap above the keys on a Roland stage piano through
which a coin could pass.



** The keys move, so there is a gap enough for a small coin.

It predates the piano by more than forty years.



** So ****ing what ?

You idiot.



..... Phil




Dave Plowman (News) October 7th 11 09:16 AM

Speaker drive unit replacement.
 
In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:
As he took the speaker out, something that had been
wedged between the cone and the spider, fell to the floor.
It was a nickel-brass threepenny bit, of 1953 vintage.


One wonders how it got there. It predates
the piano by more than forty years.


The UK change to decimal coinage was Feb 1971, and of course a '53 coin
could well have been in circulation up until then.

Main use for those coins was checking the idle on the Bentley I once
owned. When in good tune, you could balance one on the engine. ;-)

At one time, it was common to find speakers in a cloth bag - presumably to
stop foreign objects getting into the works. I have ceiling speakers in
the bathroom and did just that with them - the back of them is open to the
roof void. And I do like the bass end from a genuine infinite baffle. ;-)

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*Why do we say something is out of whack? What is a whack?

Dave Plowman London SW
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