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Speaker drive unit replacement.
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I'm after a replacement drive unit for a Technics PX20 electric piano and am not getting very far with Panasonic. They have told me that the part number is EAS16PL403A and that it is no longer available and there is no replacement part. Admittedly the Piano was bought in 1989 so I'm not surprised that they don't have spares. Does anybody here know of a replacement that I could try (I'd obviously replace both not just the blown one)? Alternatively what details do I ask Panasonic for regarding the specification of the speaker? Full range or not? Impedance? Size? Sensitivity? Anything else? Thank you -- David :) Only 1 in 10 people understand the binary system - the other half don't. |
Speaker drive unit replacement.
"David" I'm after a replacement drive unit for a Technics PX20 electric piano and am not getting very far with Panasonic. They have told me that the part number is EAS16PL403A and that it is no longer available and there is no replacement part. Admittedly the Piano was bought in 1989 so I'm not surprised that they don't have spares. Does anybody here know of a replacement that I could try (I'd obviously replace both not just the blown one)? Alternatively what details do I ask Panasonic for regarding the specification of the speaker? Full range or not? Impedance? Size? Sensitivity? Anything else? ** You a total ****ing moron ???? YOU have got two example speakers and so YOU know the answers to your first three questions. The folk at Panasonic spares have no examples and hence no bloody idea. We have no idea either for the same bloody obvious reason. .... Phil |
Speaker drive unit replacement.
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David wrote: Hello, I'm after a replacement drive unit for a Technics PX20 electric piano and am not getting very far with Panasonic. They have told me that the part number is EAS16PL403A and that it is no longer available and there is no replacement part. Admittedly the Piano was bought in 1989 so I'm not surprised that they don't have spares. Does anybody here know of a replacement that I could try (I'd obviously replace both not just the blown one)? Alternatively what details do I ask Panasonic for regarding the specification of the speaker? Full range or not? Impedance? Size? Sensitivity? Anything else? I very much doubt it uses anything fancy, so it would be more of a question of getting something that physically fits. The power handling and impedance are probably marked on the speaker. Or the power output of the amp given in the handbook. http://www.wilmslow-audio.co.uk/ would be a good start for a replacement. -- *Filthy stinking rich -- well, two out of three ain't bad Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
what details do I ask Panasonic for regarding the specification of the speaker? Full range or not? Impedance? Size? Sensitivity? Anything else? I very much doubt it uses anything fancy, so it would be more of a question of getting something that physically fits. The power handling and impedance are probably marked on the speaker. Or the power output of the amp given in the handbook. http://www.wilmslow-audio.co.uk/ would be a good start for a replacement. Thank you Dave, I'm fairly sure it's a 2x40 watts RMS amplifier but we haven't found the handbook yet. The piano is in everyday use so I was hoping that Panasonic would be able to tell me the spec of the speaker before I dismantle it. I shall open it up and have a look. Thanks for the link. Regards David |
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"David" I'm after a replacement drive unit for a Technics PX20 electric piano and am not getting very far with Panasonic. They have told me that the part number is EAS16PL403A and that it is no longer available and there is no replacement part. Admittedly the Piano was bought in 1989 so I'm not surprised that they don't have spares. Does anybody here know of a replacement that I could try (I'd obviously replace both not just the blown one)? Alternatively what details do I ask Panasonic for regarding the specification of the speaker? Full range or not? Impedance? Size? Sensitivity? Anything else? ** You a total ****ing moron ???? Well for now let's assume so. YOU have got two example speakers and so YOU know the answers to your first three questions. The folk at Panasonic spares have no examples and hence no bloody idea. Well I thought that maybe as they designed the piano that just maybe they might know the spec. We have no idea either for the same bloody obvious reason. Which is why I asked which information I need to get a suitable replacement. Thank you for your time. David |
Speaker drive unit replacement.
"David" wrote in message ... Hello, I'm after a replacement drive unit for a Technics PX20 electric piano and am not getting very far with Panasonic. They have told me that the part number is EAS16PL403A and that it is no longer available and there is no replacement part. Admittedly the Piano was bought in 1989 so I'm not surprised that they don't have spares. Does anybody here know of a replacement that I could try (I'd obviously replace both not just the blown one)? Alternatively what details do I ask Panasonic for regarding the specification of the speaker? Full range or not? Impedance? Size? Sensitivity? Anything else? Thank you -- David :) Only 1 in 10 people understand the binary system - the other half don't. Hello David. I am not familiar with the Technics PX20 but have had a similar problem with a Roland stage piano, that is used professionally at 200 concerts a year. The pianist uses the internal speakers as his own stage monitor, with the line level output going to the PA mix. He complained of a "fuzzy" sound. I took the speaker out. No direct replacements were available from Roland. It was a smallish eliptical, stamped 10W 8 Ohms, so I bought a pair of 8 Ohm replacements from a local component shop, which had half a dozen different speakers, all of which would have fitted perfectly. I took the salesmans' advice, and bought the best built with the heaviest magnet. As it turned out, it was not the most expensive. The manufacturer was, IIRC, Monacor. This was 6 months and nearly 100 concerts ago. All is well. Iain |
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"Iain Churches" wrote in message
... "David" wrote in message ... Hello, I'm after a replacement drive unit for a Technics PX20 electric piano and am not getting very far with Panasonic. They have told me that the part number is EAS16PL403A and that it is no longer available and there is no replacement part. Admittedly the Piano was bought in 1989 so I'm not surprised that they don't have spares. Does anybody here know of a replacement that I could try (I'd obviously replace both not just the blown one)? Alternatively what details do I ask Panasonic for regarding the specification of the speaker? Full range or not? Impedance? Size? Sensitivity? Anything else? Thank you -- David :) Only 1 in 10 people understand the binary system - the other half don't. Hello David. I am not familiar with the Technics PX20 but have had a similar problem with a Roland stage piano, that is used professionally at 200 concerts a year. The pianist uses the internal speakers as his own stage monitor, with the line level output going to the PA mix. He complained of a "fuzzy" sound. I took the speaker out. No direct replacements were available from Roland. It was a smallish eliptical, stamped 10W 8 Ohms, so I bought a pair of 8 Ohm replacements from a local component shop, which had half a dozen different speakers, all of which would have fitted perfectly. I took the salesmans' advice, and bought the best built with the heaviest magnet. As it turned out, it was not the most expensive. The manufacturer was, IIRC, Monacor. This was 6 months and nearly 100 concerts ago. All is well. Iain Thank you Iain, I shall have a look inside and try to find a suitable match. Regards David |
Speaker drive unit replacement.
David wrote... Size? Assuming this is a similar model (SX-PX 20) then; the service manual downloadable from... http://elektrotanya.com/technics_sx-.../download.html doesn't say much only... Speaker 1 = 16cm 8ohm Speaker 2 = 12cm 8 ohm Speaker 3 = Horn tweeter 16ohm. It does mention that there are Stereo Left and Right audio outputs on RCA on the rear panel which if present on your model could possibly be used if no luck with the speaker(s). To download the SM you should click the small red left and right arrows to the right of the cover image to view several ads, a "Get manual" link will eventually show and it will then download. -- Ken O'Meara http://www.btinternet.com/~unsteadyken/ |
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"UnsteadyKen" wrote in message
om... David wrote... Size? Assuming this is a similar model (SX-PX 20) then; the service manual downloadable from... http://elektrotanya.com/technics_sx-.../download.html doesn't say much only... Speaker 1 = 16cm 8ohm Speaker 2 = 12cm 8 ohm Speaker 3 = Horn tweeter 16ohm. It does mention that there are Stereo Left and Right audio outputs on RCA on the rear panel which if present on your model could possibly be used if no luck with the speaker(s). To download the SM you should click the small red left and right arrows to the right of the cover image to view several ads, a "Get manual" link will eventually show and it will then download. Thank you Ken, that's fantastic. I'll have a listen to see which speaker has blown (assuming it is a speaker), but at least it's not stereo so only need to replace one. Will let you all know how I get on. David |
Speaker drive unit replacement.
"David" "Phil Allison" "David" I'm after a replacement drive unit for a Technics PX20 electric piano and am not getting very far with Panasonic. They have told me that the part number is EAS16PL403A and that it is no longer available and there is no replacement part. Admittedly the Piano was bought in 1989 so I'm not surprised that they don't have spares. Does anybody here know of a replacement that I could try (I'd obviously replace both not just the blown one)? Alternatively what details do I ask Panasonic for regarding the specification of the speaker? Full range or not? Impedance? Size? Sensitivity? Anything else? ** You a total ****ing moron ???? Well for now let's assume so. ** No assumption needed here, folks. YOU have got two example speakers and so YOU know the answers to your first three questions. The folk at Panasonic spares have no examples and hence no bloody idea. Well I thought that maybe as they designed the piano ... ** ROTFLMAO !!! The spare parts gal or dude is now the **designer ** ??? Think some guy in Japan or Taiwan has that title. We have no idea either for the same bloody obvious reason. Which is why I asked which information I need to get a suitable replacement. ** My god you really are a LIVE ONE !! ...... Phil |
Speaker drive unit replacement.
"David" I'm fairly sure it's a 2x40 watts RMS amplifier but we haven't found the handbook yet. ** Got eyeballs ?? The piano is in everyday use so I was hoping that Panasonic would be able to tell me the spec of the speaker before I dismantle it. ** Wot a ****WIT !!! I shall open it up and have a look. ** Watch out for all the creepy crawlies.... ..... Phil |
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"Brian Gaff" Ah a person who is tactful insightful and calm obviously, you should be in customer services. ** I am. I run my own business. Fools with damn silly questions on the phone get a good earful. Had one today. Wanted to know the cost of a 120V to 240V internal conversion in some obscure USA amp he just bought on eBay. Over the phone. Strewth !! .... Phil |
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Thank you Ken, that's fantastic. I'll have a listen to see which speaker has blown (assuming it is a speaker), but at least it's not stereo so only need to replace one. Will let you all know how I get on. Erm... You now say *assuming* it is a speaker. Whereas you initially said it *was*. What are the actual symptoms, and what makes you think it is a *speaker* as distinct from, say, a broken wire in the unit or a blow amp (or its fuse) or various other possibly problems? Slainte, Jim -- Please use the address on the audiomisc page if you wish to email me. Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html |
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"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
... In article , David Thank you Ken, that's fantastic. I'll have a listen to see which speaker has blown (assuming it is a speaker), but at least it's not stereo so only need to replace one. Will let you all know how I get on. Erm... You now say *assuming* it is a speaker. Whereas you initially said it *was*. What are the actual symptoms, and what makes you think it is a *speaker* as distinct from, say, a broken wire in the unit or a blow amp (or its fuse) or various other possibly problems? I'm not 100% that it's the speaker but it sounds like a bass drive unit fault. It buzzes at certain frequencies. The drive units still work. I'm not sure how to diagnose what it actually is without replacing various bits. I'll have a listen tonight to see if I get a better idea. How would I tell whether it's an amp or speaker problem? Thank you David |
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"Phil Allison" wrote in message
... "David" I'm after a replacement drive unit for a Technics PX20 electric piano and am not getting very far with Panasonic. They have told me that the part number is EAS16PL403A and that it is no longer available and there is no replacement part. Admittedly the Piano was bought in 1989 so I'm not surprised that they don't have spares. Does anybody here know of a replacement that I could try (I'd obviously replace both not just the blown one)? Alternatively what details do I ask Panasonic for regarding the specification of the speaker? Full range or not? Impedance? Size? Sensitivity? Anything else? ** You a total ****ing moron ???? Well for now let's assume so. ** No assumption needed here, folks. Well I assumed that your comment was a grammatically incorrect question due to the question marks. If you knew the answer then it should have been a comment. If you're not sure of the difference or how to reconstruct your comment then please feel free to ask. YOU have got two example speakers and so YOU know the answers to your first three questions. The folk at Panasonic spares have no examples and hence no bloody idea. Well I thought that maybe as they designed the piano ... ** ROTFLMAO !!! The spare parts gal or dude is now the **designer ** ??? Think some guy in Japan or Taiwan has that title. When I design a sprinkler system, the company I work for designed the system as I work for them. The design belongs to the company that I work for and all of the drawings and calculations belong to them. Is this different at Panasonic/Technics? I was unaware of this, if it is so. Just out of curiosity, what makes you think that I spoke to the spare parts department? We have no idea either for the same bloody obvious reason. Which is why I asked which information I need to get a suitable replacement. ** My god you really are a LIVE ONE !! Can't we get you on Mastermind, Phil? Next contestant - Phil Allison from uk.rec.audio. Specialist subject - Stating the bleedin' obvious. -- David |
Speaker drive unit replacement.
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wrote: "Jim Lesurf" wrote in message ... What are the actual symptoms, and what makes you think it is a *speaker* as distinct from, say, a broken wire in the unit or a blow amp (or its fuse) or various other possibly problems? I'm not 100% that it's the speaker but it sounds like a bass drive unit fault. It buzzes at certain frequencies. The drive units still work. I'm not sure how to diagnose what it actually is without replacing various bits. The 'buzzing' you report is useful as a symptom. It rules out various things which other behaviour might have caused. The speaker being damaged sounds plausible, although it might perhaps be something else like a poor connection rattling or a loose wire against the cone. If you'd said the speaker had fallen silent, then it might have been a broken connection or an amp or channel fuse failure. 'Buzzing' might still be the amp. But the speaker is a better bet I'd think. I'll have a listen tonight to see if I get a better idea. How would I tell whether it's an amp or speaker problem? If the unit is 'stereo' (has two sets of speakers and two amps in this case) you can check by swapping over the connections so that which amp drives which channel is swapped. If the symptoms stay with the speaker, it points to a speaker problem. If they follow the amp, an amp problem. However the 'buzz' does seem like a speaker problem. You might find it is a loose wire that can be reconnected or moved to avoid it touching the cone of the speaker. You may even find that rotating the speaker top-bottom will help if the speaker unit has 'sagged' under gravity. If there is no obvious mechanical damage such experiments might be worth a try. If they work, good. If not, you are no worse off for trying. Slainte, Jim -- Please use the address on the audiomisc page if you wish to email me. Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html |
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"David" "Phil Allison" "David" ** You a total ****ing moron ???? Well for now let's assume so. ** No assumption needed here, folks. Well I assumed that your comment was a grammatically incorrect question ** LOL !!! You are one pompous, assuming ass. And an illiterate one at that. Well I thought that maybe as they designed the piano ... ** ROTFLMAO !!! The spare parts gal or dude is now the **designer ** ??? Think some guy in Japan or Taiwan has that title. When I design a sprinkler system, ** What does it sprinkle ?? Fairy dust, by any chance ??? The fairies and goblins at the bottom of your garden are having a real hoot right now. Cos the house is occupied by a GIANT tu tu wearing fairy. ** My god you really are a LIVE ONE !! Can't we get you on Mastermind, Phil? Next contestant - Phil Allison from uk.rec.audio. Specialist subject - Stating the bleedin' obvious. ** Least the ****ing idiot admits he is a LIVE ONE !! The entertainment never stops here folks..... ..... Phil |
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The entertainment never stops here folks..... One does one's best to please. -- David |
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"Jim Lesurf" The 'buzzing' you report is useful as a symptom. It rules out various things which other behaviour might have caused. The speaker being damaged sounds plausible, although it might perhaps be something else like a poor connection rattling or a loose wire against the cone. ** If you were a service tech Jim, you would FIRST suspect a foreign object. It's an electric piano - so the speakers typically face upwards through a slotted grille that small objects can fall through. Makes a nasty distorted sound that is very level and note dependant. Occam's Razor rules........... ..... Phil |
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"Phil Allison" wrote in message ... "Brian Gaff" Ah a person who is tactful insightful and calm obviously, you should be in customer services. ** I am. I run my own business. Fools with damn silly questions on the phone get a good earful. Had one today. Wanted to know the cost of a 120V to 240V internal conversion in some obscure USA amp he just bought on eBay. Over the phone. Strewth !! No cigar for customer relations, Phil:-) Instead of your "giving an earful" a smart tech would have replied: "Bring the unit in for an estimate, which will cost 50e and will be deducted from the final bill if you have the work done" Iain |
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"Phil Allison" wrote in message ...
** If you were a service tech Jim, you would FIRST suspect a foreign object. It's an electric piano - so the speakers typically face upwards through a slotted grille that small objects can fall through. Makes a nasty distorted sound that is very level and note dependant. Well in this case and with most and possibly all Technics pianos, they face downwards so pretty unlikely. D |
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"Iain Churchus is a ****ing MORON " ** I run my own business. Fools with damn silly questions on the phone get a good earful. Had one today. Wanted to know the cost of a 120V to 240V internal conversion in some obscure USA amp he just bought on eBay. Over the phone. Strewth !! Instead of your "giving an earful" a smart tech would have replied: "Bring the unit in for an estimate, which will cost 50e and will be deducted from the final bill if you have the work done" ** My standing offer is a free appraisal. But that was not good enough. Learn to read you ****ing IDIOT. ..... Phil |
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"David Brown Nose " ** If you were a service tech Jim, you would FIRST suspect a foreign object. It's an electric piano - so the speakers typically face upwards through a slotted grille that small objects can fall through. Makes a nasty distorted sound that is very level and note dependant. Well in this case and with most and possibly all Technics pianos, they face downwards so pretty unlikely. ** As if a bull****ing, tu-tu wearing fairy like YOU would know. |
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"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message ... However the 'buzz' does seem like a speaker problem. Jim. I received an e-mail in reply to my post in this thread, from a UK service tech in Hertforshire. He told how he too had removed a suspect speaker that rattled and buzzed, from a Roland stage piano, just as I had done. As he took the speaker out, something that had been wedged between the cone and the spider, fell to the floor. It was a nickel-brass threepenny bit, of 1953 vintage. One wonders how it got there. It predates the piano by more than forty years. I know little about numismatics, but I wondered which was worth more, the coin or the piano-) Iain |
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wrote: "Jim Lesurf" wrote in message ... However the 'buzz' does seem like a speaker problem. Jim. I received an e-mail in reply to my post in this thread, from a UK service tech in Hertforshire. He told how he too had removed a suspect speaker that rattled and buzzed, from a Roland stage piano, just as I had done. As he took the speaker out, something that had been wedged between the cone and the spider, fell to the floor. It was a nickel-brass threepenny bit, of 1953 vintage. Alas, that means I can't do a joke about "at that point, the penny dropped". :-) One wonders how it got there. It predates the piano by more than forty years. Ghost in the Machine? 8-] Or maybe a passerby throwing an old coin into the piano thinking of the old 'prepared piano' works. Do you think those with a preference for 'period performance' would argue that coins of the vintage of the *composition* would be required even for an electric piano? I know little about numismatics, but I wondered which was worth more, the coin or the piano-) Our piano is a 'pianola', alas with the mechanism in something of a mess due to all the rubber, etc, perishing. I think I have some thrupenny bits somewhere. I've assumed they aren't particularly valuable, however I'm no numasmatist, either! That said, I seem to increasingly confirm my own view that we find 'history' more interesting as we come to recall being present for more of it. Hence the page I put up recently on Concorde 001 and the 1973 Eclipse. Which *is* slightly on-topic here. I used a Revox A77 as the data recorder. I still have the tape, but not the recorder. :-) Slainte, Jim -- Please use the address on the audiomisc page if you wish to email me. Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html |
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"Iain Churchus = Nong " He told how he too had removed a suspect speaker that rattled and buzzed, from a Roland stage piano, just as I had done. As he took the speaker out, something that had been wedged between the cone and the spider, fell to the floor. It was a nickel-brass threepenny bit, of 1953 vintage. One wonders how it got there. ** The gap above the keys would allow a coin inside. Then the piano gets moved around. It predates the piano by more than forty years. ** So ****ing what ? ..... Phil |
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"Phil Allison" wrote in message ... He told how he too had removed a suspect speaker that rattled and buzzed, from a Roland stage piano, just as I had done. As he took the speaker out, something that had been wedged between the cone and the spider, fell to the floor. It was a nickel-brass threepenny bit, of 1953 vintage. One wonders how it got there. ** The gap above the keys would allow a coin inside. Take a careful look, Phil. There is no such gap above the keys on a Roland stage piano through which a coin could pass. The threepenny piece was quite a thick coin. http://www.flickr.com/photos/nickatkins/389094871/ However, removing the note stand reveals that it fits into two slots reminiscent of that on a money box. Insults and stupidty snipped. It's a pity that rational discussion is beyond you, Phil. You might learn something:-) Iain |
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"Iain Churchus is a LIAR" One wonders how it got there. ** The gap above the keys would allow a coin inside. Take a careful look, Phil. There is no such gap above the keys on a Roland stage piano through which a coin could pass. ** The keys move, so there is a gap enough for a small coin. It predates the piano by more than forty years. ** So ****ing what ? You idiot. ..... Phil |
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Iain Churches wrote: As he took the speaker out, something that had been wedged between the cone and the spider, fell to the floor. It was a nickel-brass threepenny bit, of 1953 vintage. One wonders how it got there. It predates the piano by more than forty years. The UK change to decimal coinage was Feb 1971, and of course a '53 coin could well have been in circulation up until then. Main use for those coins was checking the idle on the Bentley I once owned. When in good tune, you could balance one on the engine. ;-) At one time, it was common to find speakers in a cloth bag - presumably to stop foreign objects getting into the works. I have ceiling speakers in the bathroom and did just that with them - the back of them is open to the roof void. And I do like the bass end from a genuine infinite baffle. ;-) -- *Why do we say something is out of whack? What is a whack? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Phil Allison" wrote in message ... Take a careful look, Phil. There is no such gap above the keys on a Roland stage piano through which a coin could pass. ** The keys move, so there is a gap enough for a small coin. Take a look at a Roland stage piano, and then at the thickness of the thrupenny bit. The keys pivot at the back, so even though the front edge of the key drops by 10mm, the rear of the key and the very narrow gap between it and the case, does not increase enough to allow a coin to enter. Furthermore the horizontal space, even between the E and F keys and B and C keys which have no black keys between them, is certainly not wide enough for a thrupenny bit. Iain |
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"Iain Churchus is a PUKE " ** The keys move, so there is a gap enough for a small coin. ...... Phil |
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Phil Allison wrote: ** The keys move, so there is a gap enough for a small coin. Give the dimensions of the coin in question. -- *You're never too old to learn something stupid. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Dave Plowman (Nutcase)" ** The keys move, so there is a gap enough for a small coin. Give the dimensions of the coin in question. ** Small. |
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Phil Allison wrote: ** The keys move, so there is a gap enough for a small coin. Give the dimensions of the coin in question. ** Small. Thought as much. Try looking it up - as you're so fond of telling others to do. -- *There's no place like www.home.com * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Dave Plowman (****ing Nut Case ) Phil Allison ** The keys move, so there is a gap enough for a small coin. Give the dimensions of the coin in question. ** Small. Thought as much. ** You have no thoughts at all. There is a gap enough for a small coin. ****ing learn to read - you stinking, pommy pig. ..... Phil |
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On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 22:18:47 +1100, "Phil Allison"
wrote: "Dave Plowman (****ing Nut Case ) Phil Allison ** The keys move, so there is a gap enough for a small coin. Give the dimensions of the coin in question. ** Small. Thought as much. ** You have no thoughts at all. There is a gap enough for a small coin. ****ing learn to read - you stinking, pommy pig. The threpenny bit is one of the thickest coins ever minted. It also has twelve sides, so it is one of the sidiest coins ever minted. It doesn't fit down small slots. d |
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On 08/10/2011 12:40, Don Pearce wrote:
On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 22:18:47 +1100, "Phil wrote: "Dave Plowman (****ing Nut Case ) Phil Allison ** The keys move, so there is a gap enough for a small coin. Give the dimensions of the coin in question. ** Small. Thought as much. ** You have no thoughts at all. There is a gap enough for a small coin. ****ing learn to read - you stinking, pommy pig. The threpenny bit is one of the thickest coins ever minted. It also has twelve sides, so it is one of the sidiest 10/10 for word invention. :) -- |
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On 08/10/2011 12:18, Phil Allison wrote:
"Dave Plowman (****ing Nut Case ) Phil Allison ** The keys move, so there is a gap enough for a small coin. Give the dimensions of the coin in question. ** Small. Thought as much. ** You have no thoughts at all. There is a gap enough for a small coin. ****ing learn to read - you stinking, pommy pig. Oh you've met Dave then? -- |
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john wrote: ****ing learn to read - you stinking, pommy pig. Oh you've met Dave then? ;-) Or ;-( -- *I speak fluent patriarchy but it\'s not my mother tongue Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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