In article ,
Phil Allison wrote:
and over time there
have been mods that do improve them.

** The Quad 405 design lent itself to part swapping around the op-amp
input stage.

So of course audiophool ******s had to try it and then publish all kinds
off bull about it on the net.

None of the mods does anything worthwhile - audiophool mods never do.

So what you're saying is all op-amps sound the same - regardless of the
particular job they're doing?

If that's the case, why are there so many varieties? And why did Quad
change the op-amp themselves?

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"Dave Plowman (Nutcase **** )"

** The Quad 405 design lent itself to part swapping around the op-amp
input stage.

So of course audiophool ******s had to try it and then publish all kinds
off bull about it on the net.

None of the mods does anything worthwhile - audiophool mods never do.

So what you're saying is all op-amps sound the same - regardless of the
particular job they're doing?

** Go get bowel cancer - you stinking autistic moron.


If that's the case, why are there so many varieties?

** Stupid question.

And why did Quad change the op-amp themselves?


** The original one became obsolete - ****wit.

FFS, FOAD you INSANE geriatric pommy ****.

ASAP.

.... Phil

In article ,
Phil Allison wrote:

"Dave Plowman (Nutcase **** )"

** The Quad 405 design lent itself to part swapping around the op-amp
input stage.

So of course audiophool ******s had to try it and then publish all
kinds off bull about it on the net.

None of the mods does anything worthwhile - audiophool mods never do.

So what you're saying is all op-amps sound the same - regardless of
the particular job they're doing?

** Go get bowel cancer - you stinking autistic moron.

Didn't think you'd have an answer to that. Not even you are so stupid.

If that's the case, why are there so many varieties?

** Stupid question.

Again, no answer.

And why did Quad change the op-amp themselves?


** The original one became obsolete - ****wit.

Really? The LM301 is obsolete? Is obsolete another word you just use
without knowing the meaning?

FFS, FOAD you INSANE geriatric pommy ****.

ASAP.

... Phil

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In article , Phil Allison
scribeth thus

"tony sayer"


Heres some other interesting stuff on the 5/8 and 5/9 .

There is a bit more to this than meets the eye regarding the amplifiers
in use., It does seem to be agreed that the original Quad's which were
very good for their time did have some shortcomings

** Bet you cannot identify even one real example.


Well several people Inc some I know of who do spend time in pro audio
environments have commented on the "veiled" audio from the 405 and some
have done modifications over time to improve that. However for it's time
it was very good and I'm sure if Peter Walker had access to better
devices he'd have used them!..

Several sites discuss improvements to the 405 ..

http://www.keith-snook.info/quad-405-mods.html

http://www.desmith.net/NMdS/Electron..._upgrades.html

http://www.quadmodsusa.com/405upgrades.html

Suppose -all- of them must be wrong then?..


and over time there
have been mods that do improve them.

** The Quad 405 design lent itself to part swapping around the op-amp input
stage.

So of course audiophool ******s had to try it and then publish all kinds off
bull about it on the net.

None of the mods does anything worthwhile - audiophool mods never do.






Note the comments on the Chord amps used on later designs and the better
reviews they attract..

** Groannnnnn....

Audiophool reviews read by audiophools.

The blind leading the blind.


Http://www.mhennessy.f9.co.uk/rogers/ls58_chord.htm

So would you suggest that the comments in the article are "audiophools"
then?. These people at the BBC have more resources than most any hi-fi
jurno or speaker manufacturer and do spend more time than most in a live
audio environment...




**** off Tony.

G Day Cobber;!)..


... Phil



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tony sayer wrote:
Well several people Inc some I know of who do spend time in pro audio
environments have commented on the "veiled" audio from the 405 and some
have done modifications over time to improve that. However for it's time
it was very good and I'm sure if Peter Walker had access to better
devices he'd have used them!..

There were a vast number of mods done to the 405 by Quad themselves over
its life - and then came the 405-2.

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"tony sayer"
Phil Allison
"tony sayer"
Heres some other interesting stuff on the 5/8 and 5/9 .

There is a bit more to this than meets the eye regarding the amplifiers
in use., It does seem to be agreed that the original Quad's which were
very good for their time did have some shortcomings

** Bet you cannot identify even one real example.


Well several people Inc some I know of who do spend time in pro audio
environments have commented on the "veiled" audio from the 405 and some
have done modifications over time to improve that.

** Anonymous audiophools alleged opinions are examples of what ??

**** you are a stupid ****head.


However for it's time it was very good

** Yawnnnnnnnn....


and I'm sure

** No you are not.


Several sites discuss improvements to the 405 ..

** The Quad 405 design lent itself to part swapping around the op-amp input
stage.

So of course audiophool ******s had to try it and then publish all kinds off
bull about it on the net.

None of the mods does anything worthwhile - audiophool mods never do.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Note the comments on the Chord amps used on later designs and the better
reviews they attract..

** Groannnnnn....

Audiophool reviews read by audiophools.

The blind leading the blind.


Http://www.mhennessy.f9.co.uk/rogers/ls58_chord.htm

So would you suggest that the comments in the article are "audiophools"
then?.

** Which comments ??

You will have to be specific.


These people at the BBC have more resources than most any hi-fi
jurno or speaker manufacturer and do spend more time than most in a live
audio environment...

** Irrelevant, circumstantial crap.

Audiophools are everywhere in pro and consumer audio.

Peter Walker hated them all.



..... Phil

"Dave Plowman (Nutcase LIAR & ****WIT)

tony sayer

Well several people Inc some I know of who do spend time in pro audio
environments have commented on the "veiled" audio from the 405 and some
have done modifications over time to improve that. However for it's time
it was very good and I'm sure if Peter Walker had access to better
devices he'd have used them!..

There were a vast number of mods done to the 405 by Quad themselves over
its life

** There were only very few in fact and none of them were in any way
"audiophool".

- and then came the 405-2.

** Quad ( ie Peter Walker ) never claimed it had audible improvements.

Cos none were needed.

Peter Walker hated audiophools.



..... Phil

In article ,
Phil Allison wrote:
There were a vast number of mods done to the 405 by Quad themselves
over its life

** There were only very few in fact and none of them were in any way
"audiophool".

Who said they were?

- and then came the 405-2.

** Quad ( ie Peter Walker ) never claimed it had audible improvements.

Peter Walker also claimed all his amps sounded the same.

Cos none were needed.

Given several were to cure instability, I'd hope they did make audible
improvements where they were necessary.

Peter Walker hated audiophools.

He'd definitely not have liked you. He was a gentleman.

BTW, your silence on the subject of the 405 op-amp being changed during
production is deafening.

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"Dave Plowman (Nutcase and ****ING LIAR )

Phil Allison

There were a vast number of mods done to the 405 by Quad themselves
over its life

** There were only very few in fact and none of them were in any way
"audiophool".

Who said they were?

** Wrong context - you ****ing halfwit.

You replied to a post by TS that was about *audiophool mods*.

My post was about *audiophool mods*.



- and then came the 405-2.

** Quad ( ie Peter Walker ) never claimed it had audible improvements.

Peter Walker also claimed all his amps sounded the same.


** That is not what he said - you lying ****.


Peter Walker hated audiophools.

** He would DESPISE a stinking **** like you.


BTW, your silence on the subject of the 405 op-amp being changed during
production is deafening.


** Been answered.

You know nothing pile of pommy ****.



..... Phil

In article ,
Phil Allison wrote:

"Dave Plowman (Nutcase and ****ING LIAR )

Phil Allison

There were a vast number of mods done to the 405 by Quad themselves
over its life

** There were only very few in fact and none of them were in any way
"audiophool".

Who said they were?

** Wrong context - you ****ing halfwit.

You replied to a post by TS that was about *audiophool mods*.

My post was about *audiophool mods*.

The thread is about LS5/8 mods. Which has a 405 driving it. If you want to
be picky.

Your posts generally have so little about a thread that only you would
complain about thread drift. But of course are too stupid to see this.


- and then came the 405-2.

** Quad ( ie Peter Walker ) never claimed it had audible
improvements.

Peter Walker also claimed all his amps sounded the same.


** That is not what he said - you lying ****.

Oh, but he did. On numerous occasions.


Peter Walker hated audiophools.

** He would DESPISE a stinking **** like you.

We got on rather well.

BTW, your silence on the subject of the 405 op-amp being changed during
production is deafening.


** Been answered.

No you didn't, as you just hate being shown up to be wrong - again.

You know nothing pile of pommy ****.


What would your mummy say if she knew the language you used?

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