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Old August 28th 14, 11:19 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
David B
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"Woody" wrote in message
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"Johny B Good" wrote in message
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On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 11:34:59 +0100, RJH wrote:

On 27/08/2014 11:09, Bob Latham wrote:
In article ,
Don Pearce wrote:

Or that there are much better ways to load speakers than transmission
lines.

I would be interested to hear what these are and in what way they are
better other than box size.


I suppose there's many ways to skin a cat. My preference (shaped by
price and space too) over the years has come down to sealed box or
transmission line. Wonder what Don has in mind.


From his subsequent postings, the only alternative is horn loading.
This suits short throw drive units but a 30 foot horn, even when
folded, is a rather large beast to shoehorn into the typical domestic
auditorium (living/ entertainment room) of your 'average semi'.



Well not if you put the driver and throat under the floor and just vent
the mouth - remember at those frequencies the sound has little or no
directionality.


Something like this?
http://www.royaldevice.com/useless.htm

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Old August 28th 14, 12:36 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Woody[_4_]
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"David B" wrote in message
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"Woody" wrote in message
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"Johny B Good" wrote
in message
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On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 11:34:59 +0100, RJH
wrote:

On 27/08/2014 11:09, Bob Latham wrote:
In article
,
Don Pearce wrote:

Or that there are much better ways to load speakers
than transmission
lines.

I would be interested to hear what these are and in
what way they are
better other than box size.


I suppose there's many ways to skin a cat. My
preference (shaped by
price and space too) over the years has come down to
sealed box or
transmission line. Wonder what Don has in mind.

From his subsequent postings, the only alternative is
horn loading.
This suits short throw drive units but a 30 foot horn,
even when
folded, is a rather large beast to shoehorn into the
typical domestic
auditorium (living/ entertainment room) of your
'average semi'.



Well not if you put the driver and throat under the floor
and just vent the mouth - remember at those frequencies
the sound has little or no directionality.


Something like this?
http://www.royaldevice.com/useless.htm




A tad overkill maybe?

Their clearly not all locked up yet!


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Woody

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Old August 28th 14, 01:45 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Johny B Good[_2_]
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On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 12:19:30 +0100, "David B"
wrote:

"Woody" wrote in message
...
"Johny B Good" wrote in message
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On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 11:34:59 +0100, RJH wrote:

On 27/08/2014 11:09, Bob Latham wrote:
In article ,
Don Pearce wrote:

Or that there are much better ways to load speakers than transmission
lines.

I would be interested to hear what these are and in what way they are
better other than box size.


I suppose there's many ways to skin a cat. My preference (shaped by
price and space too) over the years has come down to sealed box or
transmission line. Wonder what Don has in mind.

From his subsequent postings, the only alternative is horn loading.
This suits short throw drive units but a 30 foot horn, even when
folded, is a rather large beast to shoehorn into the typical domestic
auditorium (living/ entertainment room) of your 'average semi'.



Well not if you put the driver and throat under the floor and just vent
the mouth - remember at those frequencies the sound has little or no
directionality.


Something like this?
http://www.royaldevice.com/useless.htm


Two things I noticed, one being an old model Thorens Turntable[1],
the other being the sub-woofer being split into left and right horns.

The first I can understand but the second I have to question in a VLF
sub-woofer (10 to 80 Hz afaicr).

[1] Yes, I realise most of the belt drive Thorens decks are old. I
meant it was even older than my 'modern' TD 125 Mk 1 :-)

It looks like an immediate predecessor to the TD125 range, I suspect
chosen to do transcription duty with 78 rpm recordings (the TD125
lacks this speed range).

I didn't spot any mention of it in any of the accompanying text. I
couldn't be bothered to google countless images of classic Thorens
record decks to try and work out which model it was. I'll leave that
as an exercise for someone else who gives more of a **** about this
sort of stuff than I do. :-)
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Old August 28th 14, 01:58 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Woody[_4_]
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"Johny B Good" wrote in
message ...
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 12:19:30 +0100, "David B"

wrote:

"Woody" wrote in message
...
"Johny B Good"
wrote in message
...
On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 11:34:59 +0100, RJH
wrote:

On 27/08/2014 11:09, Bob Latham wrote:
In article
,
Don Pearce wrote:

Or that there are much better ways to load speakers
than transmission
lines.

I would be interested to hear what these are and in
what way they are
better other than box size.


I suppose there's many ways to skin a cat. My
preference (shaped by
price and space too) over the years has come down to
sealed box or
transmission line. Wonder what Don has in mind.

From his subsequent postings, the only alternative is
horn loading.
This suits short throw drive units but a 30 foot horn,
even when
folded, is a rather large beast to shoehorn into the
typical domestic
auditorium (living/ entertainment room) of your
'average semi'.


Well not if you put the driver and throat under the
floor and just vent
the mouth - remember at those frequencies the sound has
little or no
directionality.


Something like this?
http://www.royaldevice.com/useless.htm


Two things I noticed, one being an old model Thorens
Turntable[1],
the other being the sub-woofer being split into left and
right horns.

The first I can understand but the second I have to
question in a VLF
sub-woofer (10 to 80 Hz afaicr).

[1] Yes, I realise most of the belt drive Thorens decks
are old. I
meant it was even older than my 'modern' TD 125 Mk 1 :-)

It looks like an immediate predecessor to the TD125 range,
I suspect
chosen to do transcription duty with 78 rpm recordings
(the TD125
lacks this speed range).

I didn't spot any mention of it in any of the accompanying
text. I
couldn't be bothered to google countless images of classic
Thorens
record decks to try and work out which model it was. I'll
leave that
as an exercise for someone else who gives more of a ****
about this
sort of stuff than I do. :-)



TD165 or one of the many versions of the TD160 methinks.


--
Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com


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Old August 28th 14, 02:29 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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In article ,
Johny B Good wrote:
Something like this?
http://www.royaldevice.com/useless.htm


Two things I noticed, one being an old model Thorens Turntable[1],
the other being the sub-woofer being split into left and right horns.


What caught my eye was the drum overhead mics just dangling on their
cables from the stands. ;-)

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