Not sure if this is the right forum, but I'm out of ideas....

We've had recommended a Bose column speaker, and have handled and heard
one. It was good. But the MAUI 28 seems a vastly cheaper alternative
with good reviews. The only snag is, we've not been able to find any
supplier who actually has one - we want to see how robust it is and to
hear what it sounds like before committing to a purchase. I begin to
think the product is vapourware.

Does anyone know of a London/Essex area vendor that actually has them in
stock please?

Or can anyone say from experience whether they're ace or to be avoided?


Thanks.

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On 18/11/2014 09:23, Mike Scott wrote:
Not sure if this is the right forum, but I'm out of ideas....

We've had recommended a Bose column speaker, and have handled and heard
one. It was good. But the MAUI 28 seems a vastly cheaper alternative
with good reviews. The only snag is, we've not been able to find any
supplier who actually has one - we want to see how robust it is and to
hear what it sounds like before committing to a purchase. I begin to
think the product is vapourware.

Does anyone know of a London/Essex area vendor that actually has them in
stock please?

Or can anyone say from experience whether they're ace or to be avoided?

http://cpc.farnell.com/ld-systems/ma...?Ntt=ls0393002

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On 18/11/2014 09:56, Huge wrote:
On 2014-11-18, Mike Scott wrote:
Not sure if this is the right forum, but I'm out of ideas....

We've had recommended a Bose column speaker,

Can't imagine why.

Someone's on commission?
Which model of Bose?
The Maui looks like a joke too.

Tell us your requirements and you might get some recommendations.

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Yes exactly, the whole thing about speakers is they sound different to
different people and in different situations. If you want a speaker to just
do background then you need one which is really smooth, but if you want to
impress then that is not what you wont, which is why people like JBL and
their ilk make speakers.

Brian

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"Eiron" wrote in message
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On 18/11/2014 09:56, Huge wrote:
On 2014-11-18, Mike Scott wrote:
Not sure if this is the right forum, but I'm out of ideas....

We've had recommended a Bose column speaker,

Can't imagine why.

Someone's on commission?
Which model of Bose?
The Maui looks like a joke too.

Tell us your requirements and you might get some recommendations.

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Eiron.

On 18/11/14 11:19, Brian Gaff wrote:
Yes exactly, the whole thing about speakers is they sound different to
different people and in different situations. If you want a speaker to just
do background then you need one which is really smooth, but if you want to
impress then that is not what you wont, which is why people like JBL and
their ilk make speakers.

Brian


Ok.

The job is PA for a church to use in the local hall it meets in. Must be
"put-awayable" (long story) after use. Hall is around, oh, 70 feet by
40, with a pitched ceiling perhaps 40 feet at the apex. Expected
congregation size anything between maybe 20 to 150 depending on the day.

Has to be erectable by people who aren't tall and muscular, which rather
IMO rules out the 'black box on a stick' arrangement.

I'm sure the guy with the Bose (an old-model L1-something or other; he
was a little vague) was on commission. Top-dollar price from him. But he
did bring one, it sounded good, and was virtually immune to feedback
when the wireless mike was near it. But he was too pushy for the one
model for my taste.

The MAUI looks from the reviews I've seen a good alternative to check out.

(We're still thinking about what's needed in the way of mixer and mic's.)


And that's about where I've got to. Constructive thoughts very welcome
please!



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Mike Scott (unet2 at [deletethis] scottsonline.org.uk)
Harlow Essex England

In article ,
Mike Scott wrote:
The job is PA for a church to use in the local hall it meets in. Must be
"put-awayable" (long story) after use. Hall is around, oh, 70 feet by
40, with a pitched ceiling perhaps 40 feet at the apex. Expected
congregation size anything between maybe 20 to 150 depending on the day.

Has to be erectable by people who aren't tall and muscular, which rather
IMO rules out the 'black box on a stick' arrangement.

I'm sure the guy with the Bose (an old-model L1-something or other; he
was a little vague) was on commission. Top-dollar price from him. But he
did bring one, it sounded good, and was virtually immune to feedback
when the wireless mike was near it. But he was too pushy for the one
model for my taste.

The MAUI looks from the reviews I've seen a good alternative to check
out.

(We're still thinking about what's needed in the way of mixer and mic's.)


And that's about where I've got to. Constructive thoughts very welcome
please!

Is this purely for speech reinforcement?

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On 18/11/14 14:23, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
....

Is this purely for speech reinforcement?

Ooops. Sorry, yes, that's important. Speech for a handful of people,
plus music group (keyboard, guitar, clari, singer(s) plus who-knows-what
in the future).


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Mike Scott (unet2 at [deletethis] scottsonline.org.uk)
Harlow Essex England

In article , Mike Scott
wrote:


I'm sure the guy with the Bose (an old-model L1-something or other; he
was a little vague) was on commission. Top-dollar price from him. But he
did bring one, it sounded good,

Every Bose-speaker PA/SR system I've ever heard produced fairly obvious
colouration. Sound like a plastic shoebox with an attached Helmholtz
resonator. Also distorted speech as well as music.


and was virtually immune to feedback when the wireless mike was near it.

Erm, that doesn't mean much as it will depend on the loop gain, speaker
directionality, room behaviour, etc. Easy trick for a demonstrator to make.
:-)

Can't comment on the 'maui' or PA-only brands. If it were me I'd look for
some modest 'hifi maker' models and - if the situation required - possibly
use more than two, distributed to give an even sound around the hall. All
depends on the hall and what you're doing. Others here may have more
experience with the PA brands, etc. I've only really noticed Bose because
they sounded so awful to me that I looked to see what crap the place was
using! After a while I could tell in advance from their 'signature' sound.

Jim

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In article ,
Jim Lesurf wrote:
Can't comment on the 'maui' or PA-only brands. If it were me I'd look
for some modest 'hifi maker' models and - if the situation required -
possibly use more than two, distributed to give an even sound around the
hall. All depends on the hall and what you're doing. Others here may
have more experience with the PA brands, etc. I've only really noticed
Bose because they sounded so awful to me that I looked to see what crap
the place was using! After a while I could tell in advance from their
'signature' sound.

It's a perennial problem with churchy type places. As you say for decent
coverage - especially for live speech - you need multiple speakers. The
days of a preacher projecting from a pulpit have gone with many.
But that is far more difficult to rig on a temporary basis and also to
install permanently. Hence all these weird and wonderful 'single' speaker
solutions.

The principle of line source columns has been around for many a year.
But the principle of how to use them misunderstood for just as long.
They are only of benefit where the mic is positioned in the dead area of
the speaker(s). If the mic has to be used in the area the speakers
cover, they are of no benefit whatsoever. Also, to deliver a decent DP,
they have to have a restriced frequency range. To make them directional
at low frequencies would also make then extremely large.

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On 19/11/2014 09:44, Jim Lesurf wrote:
experience with the PA brands, etc. I've only really noticed Bose
because they sounded so awful to me that I looked to see what crap the
place was using! After a while I could tell in advance from their
'signature' sound. Jim

The audio quality is pretty awful but when I used to help out in my
friends PA business he used them because they were physically tough as
old boots. They could be thrown about in the back of his vans, rained
on, used as workbenches and still manage to produce an output of sorts.
OTOH, one time he left it to me to rig up a Bose system and it turned
out that the client was a singer. She was not at all pleased with the
results, most embarrassing. The SM58 I was provided with didn't exactly
help.

BTW, a bit off topic...as a Btinternet user I'm losing their free Usenet
access at the end of this month. Any suggestions for good free Usenet?
This is the only newsgroup I follow these days and I do enjoy my daily
lurk here over a morning coffee.