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Old December 6th 14, 11:08 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Brian Gaff[_2_]
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So how is it that a machine with a fast multicore processor is delaying my
audio from input to monitor output, and an XP single core slower machine is
not.
Its really irritating as if you monitor yourself talking using phones the
recording sounds like I'm drunk on the windows 7 machine. is there a way
around this?
Brian

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Old December 7th 14, 06:02 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Don Pearce[_3_]
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On Sun, 7 Dec 2014 00:08:16 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

So how is it that a machine with a fast multicore processor is delaying my
audio from input to monitor output, and an XP single core slower machine is
not.
Its really irritating as if you monitor yourself talking using phones the
recording sounds like I'm drunk on the windows 7 machine. is there a way
around this?
Brian


If you are using an ASIO audio driver you can specify the number of
bits of latency assigned to the card. It's like buffering - the more
bits the less chance of a stutter. Just about any machine these days
should be able to deal with 10 milliseconds without trouble. That
should not give the nasty effect you describe.

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Old December 7th 14, 08:47 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Sumatriptan
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On 07/12/2014 00:08, Brian Gaff wrote:
So how is it that a machine with a fast multicore processor is delaying my
audio from input to monitor output, and an XP single core slower machine is
not.
Its really irritating as if you monitor yourself talking using phones the
recording sounds like I'm drunk on the windows 7 machine. is there a way
around this?
Brian


Like Don said, it sounds like a latency problem. The Windows supplied
Direct Sound drivers have high latency due to the layers of processing.
ASIO (Audio Stream Input/Output) drivers use a more direct hardware
access. If you don't have a proprietary ASIO driver for your audio
device then do a search for the asio4all universal driver. It is free
and the current version works well with most machines and all Windows
versions. This should give you a latency of better than 10 ms.

Tony
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Old December 7th 14, 11:57 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Brian Gaff[_2_]
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Would this be in the klite codec pack perhaps?
The audio recording software tells me not to use the microsoft sound mapper
so I've use the realtech one instead, but its still the same.
I'm not up with driver replacements on 7 being used to xp of course.

Brian

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"Sumatriptan" wrote in message
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On 07/12/2014 00:08, Brian Gaff wrote:
So how is it that a machine with a fast multicore processor is delaying
my
audio from input to monitor output, and an XP single core slower machine
is
not.
Its really irritating as if you monitor yourself talking using phones
the
recording sounds like I'm drunk on the windows 7 machine. is there a way
around this?
Brian


Like Don said, it sounds like a latency problem. The Windows supplied
Direct Sound drivers have high latency due to the layers of processing.
ASIO (Audio Stream Input/Output) drivers use a more direct hardware
access. If you don't have a proprietary ASIO driver for your audio device
then do a search for the asio4all universal driver. It is free and the
current version works well with most machines and all Windows versions.
This should give you a latency of better than 10 ms.

Tony



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Old December 7th 14, 01:09 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Sumatriptan
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On 07/12/2014 12:57, Brian Gaff wrote:
Would this be in the klite codec pack perhaps?
The audio recording software tells me not to use the microsoft sound mapper
so I've use the realtech one instead, but its still the same.
I'm not up with driver replacements on 7 being used to xp of course.

Brian


I just checked the klite web page, no mention of ASIO4ALL.

If you want to give it a try then the ASIO4ALL developer website with
download links is he

http://www.asio4all.com/

It does come with it's own installer so no need to get involved with Win
7 driver changes. You probably will have to set your recording software
or mapper to use the new driver after running the installer, though.

Sorry I can't be more specific as I only have experience of installing
ASIO4ALL under Win 7 with the Reaper DAW. This did not require system
changes as the new driver simply appeared for selection in the Reaper
ASIO driver list.

The ASIO4ALL developer website does have a comprehensive FAQ list as
well as a user forum.

Tony


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Old December 7th 14, 03:12 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Don Pearce[_3_]
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Default Windows 7 query

On Sun, 07 Dec 2014 14:09:29 +0000, Sumatriptan
wrote:

On 07/12/2014 12:57, Brian Gaff wrote:
Would this be in the klite codec pack perhaps?
The audio recording software tells me not to use the microsoft sound mapper
so I've use the realtech one instead, but its still the same.
I'm not up with driver replacements on 7 being used to xp of course.

Brian


I just checked the klite web page, no mention of ASIO4ALL.

If you want to give it a try then the ASIO4ALL developer website with
download links is he

http://www.asio4all.com/

It does come with it's own installer so no need to get involved with Win
7 driver changes. You probably will have to set your recording software
or mapper to use the new driver after running the installer, though.

Sorry I can't be more specific as I only have experience of installing
ASIO4ALL under Win 7 with the Reaper DAW. This did not require system
changes as the new driver simply appeared for selection in the Reaper
ASIO driver list.

The ASIO4ALL developer website does have a comprehensive FAQ list as
well as a user forum.

Tony


I have a native ASIO driver for my sound card, but I also have ASO4ALL
from a previous incarnation. As far as I can tell, they behave
identically, and on my PC are quite happy at a latency of 2
milliseconds.

d
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Old December 7th 14, 03:44 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Johny B Good[_2_]
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Default Windows 7 query

On Sun, 7 Dec 2014 00:08:16 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

So how is it that a machine with a fast multicore processor is delaying my
audio from input to monitor output, and an XP single core slower machine is
not.
Its really irritating as if you monitor yourself talking using phones the
recording sounds like I'm drunk on the windows 7 machine. is there a way
around this?
Brian


That seems to be more to do with the soundcard used where the older
ISA and PCI cards monitored the analogue inputs via a digitally
controlled mixer outputting onto the line out/speaker out purely as an
analogue signal right the way through rather than doing an A2D -
digital mix - D2A process.
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Old December 7th 14, 05:43 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Brian Gaff[_2_]
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Default Windows 7 query

In other words, they improved it worse asper usual. I'll just get that
soundblaster card I put in the wardrobe and fit that then...

Unfortunately, all the suggestions about a special driver look like non
starters due to me needing system sounds and screenreader voice output but
not on the recording.
Brian

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On Sun, 7 Dec 2014 00:08:16 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

So how is it that a machine with a fast multicore processor is delaying my
audio from input to monitor output, and an XP single core slower machine
is
not.
Its really irritating as if you monitor yourself talking using phones the
recording sounds like I'm drunk on the windows 7 machine. is there a way
around this?
Brian


That seems to be more to do with the soundcard used where the older
ISA and PCI cards monitored the analogue inputs via a digitally
controlled mixer outputting onto the line out/speaker out purely as an
analogue signal right the way through rather than doing an A2D -
digital mix - D2A process.
--
J B Good



 




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