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On 13/02/2015 16:20, Ian Jackson wrote:

Maybe, but one does get attached to the familiar ambience (?) of old,
treasured vinyl recordings, with the all the old familiar pops and
clicks in all the old familiar places. Somehow, perfect new and
remastered versions don't evoke quite the memories of days long passed,
sitting on the floor and listening to the Rexine-covered Dansette.


For nostalgia, I have software that *adds* cracks, pops, scratches,
surface noise, motor noise, tracking damage to clean tracks. It's just
for fun and specific effects, though.

I think I will be attempting the reverse procedure when I get to the
stage of recording onto my desktop.

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On 16/02/2015 14:56, Sumatriptan wrote:
On 13/02/2015 16:20, Ian Jackson wrote:

Maybe, but one does get attached to the familiar ambience (?) of old,
treasured vinyl recordings, with the all the old familiar pops and
clicks in all the old familiar places. Somehow, perfect new and
remastered versions don't evoke quite the memories of days long passed,
sitting on the floor and listening to the Rexine-covered Dansette.


For nostalgia, I have software that *adds* cracks, pops, scratches,
surface noise, motor noise, tracking damage to clean tracks. It's just
for fun and specific effects, though.

I think I will be attempting the reverse procedure when I get to the
stage of recording onto my desktop.

Using Goldwave you can take a straight copy of an LP,
auto-declick it and do a diff on the two files, leaving
20 minutes of clicks and pops which can then be added
for nostalgic effect to any CD.

--
Eiron.

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Alternatively, just buy a suitable second-hand amp that you fancy.


I've found quite a few battery powered pre-amps around. At 6 months
quoted battery life and a potential source of hum removed I can't see a
downside to using battery power.

Tony

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http://www.macfh.co.uk/JavaJive/Audi...storation.html

Thanks, not been there yet but will do.


deck, I realised that the new deck and the cartridge didn't have the
same mountings.

I've ended up with a Dual 505 already fitted with a M55E so issue
resolved...which is good because I could not find my old M75



Also try and get some sort of idea, preferably by actually listening
to it before you purchase, whether the kit you are thinking of buying
is free from mains hum.


Must admit, I've taken a chance on this purchase based on online reviews
and comments as well as assurances from the seller, who says he will
accept returns.


noise such as tape hiss, or to give a modern sound which has high
initial impact, but is unbalanced and tires the ears more quickly than
the well-balanced sound of the original vinyl.


A feeling I have had for a while.

I snipped the rest of your comments here but be assured that I have
noted them. Thanks

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On 16/02/2015 15:01, Eiron wrote:

Using Goldwave you can take a straight copy of an LP,
auto-declick it and do a diff on the two files, leaving
20 minutes of clicks and pops which can then be added
for nostalgic effect to any CD.


Brilliant! A personalised library of one's favorite clicks and pops to
apply to those bland digitally recorded tracks.

More seriously, how does Goldwave compare with Audacity and Audition?

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On 16/02/15 06:49, John Williamson wrote:
On 15/02/2015 21:24, Chris Bartram wrote:
On 13/02/15 15:04, Eiron wrote:
On 13/02/2015 14:24, Sumatriptan wrote:
So quiet in here...

I am considering getting hold of a turntable so I can get my small
(looks like about 100 items) collection of vinyl into lossless format
and then to CD. Any tips/traps/advice please? I'm not after super

Lie down in a dark room until the feeling goes away.
Then make a list of the LPs you want to copy and buy the CDs on ebay.

This. ^^^^^^^^
With the proviso that they are available on CD. Many of my LPs aren't.

Heh. My tastes are probably more mainstream :-)

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On 14/02/2015 1:24 AM, Sumatriptan wrote:
So quiet in here...

I am considering getting hold of a turntable so I can get my small
(looks like about 100 items) collection of vinyl into lossless format
and then to CD. Any tips/traps/advice please? I'm not after super
quality reproduction from what are going to be well-played records
stored (vertically) in my loft for 40+ years. 'Proper hi-fi' quality
will probably be better than my old ears these days, subjective I know.

I'm pretty sure I have a Shure M75 cartridge and almost new stylus from
the 1970s...somewhere in that loft.

**Any phono cartridge which is more than 20 years old is suspect. The
compliant rubber mounting for the stylus will have hardened. AFAIK, only
a handful of Dynavector models avoid this with their unique stylus
mounting system. Be prepared to purchase a new stylus.


I've been looking on Ebay at things like Pioneer PL-518, Technics
SL-3200 and other direct drive tts. Would be reluctant to pay much more
than £50-£100 for what may turn out to be an aborted project if the
disks aren't playable. Am I wasting my time or what?

**Only you can answer that.


For PC line input via sound card know I need RIAA eq + preamp. I have
enough construction skills to build this, given circuit details. Or
perhaps CPC or RS do a ready made module?

**BUy a cheap, second hand amp.


Alternatively, I do have an external 24 bit res. audio capture unit
(Edirol UA-25) that has dynamic microphone inputs. I wonder if this
would work together with RIAA eq in software? MC cartridges and dynamic
mics have roughly similar output levels....don't they?

**No. In any case, MC carts require VERY high quality tone arms for
decent performance. OTOH, most MM carts can be mounted on almost any
tone arm.


A bit rusty in this stuff...been a long time.

Comments appreciated.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

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On 16/02/2015 18:26, Sumatriptan wrote:
On 16/02/2015 15:01, Eiron wrote:

Using Goldwave you can take a straight copy of an LP,
auto-declick it and do a diff on the two files, leaving
20 minutes of clicks and pops which can then be added
for nostalgic effect to any CD.


Brilliant! A personalised library of one's favorite clicks and pops to
apply to those bland digitally recorded tracks.

More seriously, how does Goldwave compare with Audacity and Audition?

It's cheaper than Audition and more expensive than Audacity. All have
free versions you can download to try out.

Which is best for you depends on what you're doing and how you prefer to
work.

Audacity is basically a stereo editor which will do multitrack work at a
pinch, and Audition is a system which will let you do a multitrack
project from start to finish. They can all do sample level editing and
digital gain automation, and you can get many plugins to do things the
native programs can't do.

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John.

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In article , John Williamson
wrote:
Audacity is basically a stereo editor which will do multitrack work at a
pinch, and Audition is a system which will let you do a multitrack
project from start to finish. They can all do sample level editing and
digital gain automation, and you can get many plugins to do things the
native programs can't do.

FWIW I use Audacity for declicking recordings from LPs. The two main
suggestions I'd make for this are as follows.

1) Where you can, use the 'repair' effect, not the one labelled
specifically for click removal.

2) Use something like 'sox' to generate a second, filtered version of the
file. I use sox to apply a highpass (2nd order) filter with a turnover at 5
kHz. I then load this below the main file into Audacity. This filtered
version makes many clicks much easier to see. When editing set the main
file to 'solo' and the filtered to 'mute'. When finished, just save the
edited main file.

Loud bangs and clicks are fairly easy to see in an audio editor's wveform
display. But lower-level ones can often be audible without being easy to
spot until you can zoom in to them. Using a filtered file gives you a
better chance to find where to zoom in. :-)

The downside is you need to avoid accidentally adding the clicks back in
when you save the results!

FWIW I've assigned the 'R' key on my systems to apply the 'repair'
function. Speeds things up. But note that for best results you may
initially need to experiment with how wide a timespan to select for a
repair. Once you've got the hang of it, this will become obvious.

Jim

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On 14/02/2015 16:48, Jim Lesurf wrote:
In article , RJH
wrote:
On 14/02/2015 09:42, Jim Lesurf wrote:

snip

If all CDs were made with sufficient care I suspect I'd be quite happy with
them. Alas in the real world, many don't seem to have been made that way.
Alas, the same can be said for LPs.


1) The LP has lots of clicks but otherwise sounds very nice. So I then
have to spend ages with Audacity 'repairing' clicks to get a result
that sounds better than the LP. Takes time and attention.


Agreed, but for some reason, on the whole, it doesn't bother me.

Matter of how you listen and what you listen to.



'Preference' is a complex concoction - as discussed here and elsewhere,
to death ;-)


2) Scanning LP sleeves, and any notes (libretto, etc). This is a real
PITA because A4 flatbed scanners can't cover a 12" LP in one go. So
required more than one scan per item, and then realignment, cropping
and stitching mutliple scans with GIMP (other programs are available
:-) )


I'm sure I'm going to regret writing this because I think I know the
answer, but use the camera on your phone.

I can give the answer you expected. I don't have a phone with a camera. :-)


Yep :-)

However I *do* have some reasonable digital cameras. I have tried using
them for this. The results weren't good. Partly lighting problems. Partly
geometric problems with perspective. Partly not having the detail of a
300dpi scan on a flatbed.


OK, I can see that. What do you want the photo for, though?

Is it just album art for playback through a music server? If so, I'd be
inclined to download from Amazon (etc), allow a (otherwise rubbish)
programme like iTunes or WMP find it for you, or live with the
compromise - surely not that severe, given the size of the image.


That said, both processes also give you more time to listen to the
item as well.


Well quite. The only slight faff for me was splitting and naming tracks
so the tags played with servers.

In general I don't split the tracks unless there is a specific reason. And
I don't add metadata tags to the flac files. I use scans of the cover,
back, and any notes, etc. Quite happy in most cases to play the results as
'LP sides'. One file per side.


As they were intended to be heard.

Keith G left me a load of 'vinyl rips', all unsplit. Those aside, I
don't quite have the attention span nowadays, alas.

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Cheers, Rob