How can you copy the codes if you do not have the original remote though?
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On 4/07/2015 9:15 AM, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
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On 3/07/2015 7:56 PM, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
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On 3/07/2015 1:54 AM, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Picked up a broken Linn Majik amp the other day, and soon got it
fixed.

It has extremely basic controls on the front - so obviously is
intended to have a remote control. Genuine Linn ones seem to fetch a
fortune on Ebay. Anyone know which generic ones will work?


**Agreed with the Logitech Harmony approach. Best thing for those
odd-ball devices.

Thing is they cost more than a genuine Linn one. ;-)


**They're less than 40 Bucks (20 Squid) over here.

Which one? There seem to be lots of different ones with the same name -
and up to about 150 quid.


**The cheapest one, of course. I rather like the nice, colour screen
models, which are sometimes on special for less than 100 Bucks.
Nonetheless, I've used this one:

http://www.dicksmith.com.au/tv-video...ol-dsau-cn3609

On special, I've seen them for around 30 Bucks. I no longer bother with
'no-name' remotes, as the Logitech stuff works so nicely.

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Trevor Wilson wrote:
Which one? There seem to be lots of different ones with the same name -
and up to about 150 quid.


**The cheapest one, of course. I rather like the nice, colour screen
models, which are sometimes on special for less than 100 Bucks.
Nonetheless, I've used this one:

http://www.dicksmith.com.au/tv-video...ol-dsau-cn3609

On special, I've seen them for around 30 Bucks. I no longer bother with
'no-name' remotes, as the Logitech stuff works so nicely.

The 350 appears to be about £50 here. Which is more than a good used Linn
remote goes for on Ebay. They tend to make about £30.

If I could be sure it would work properly, might be worth not having to
wait for a used Linn at the right price.

Not actually a lover of Logitech. Had one of their wireless keyboards and
mouse - both with a so called lifetime warranty. Both were looking very
scruffy after a short time - the letters on the keyboard keys worn off on
the most used keys. They said this just fair wear and tear.

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How can you copy the codes if you do not have the original remote though?

They give you a list of the control codes protocol numbers by maker.
Thousands of them. You enter the correct four digit code via the handset,
and it should then work. Assuming they have the correct 4 digit code, of
course. Which I doubt they'd have for a Linn. ;-)

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On 4/07/2015 8:06 PM, Brian-Gaff wrote:
How can you copy the codes if you do not have the original remote though?
Brian


**That's not how the Logitech remotes work. There's a little USB socket
in the top (or bottom) of the remotes. Plug a lead from the remote into
a computer, go on-line and move through the process on the screen to
program your remote. The system allows for easy macro set-ups and has
error checking built-in. When I set them up for clients, I suggest that
if changes are made, they should consult with a 12 year old, who can
usually manage the process easily and painlessly. It's way overkill for
setting up a single remote, but the cost is so low (here in Oz) that it
is a no-brainer. If you guys are being stung to the tune of 50 Squid for
one of their remotes, it may be better to go on-line and find one. Or,
perhaps, complain to the regulatory people who deal with pricing.
Clearly, Poms are being ripped off.

OTOH, here is what I found this morning:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Logitech-H...em2c9ce3 77d0

A beaut remote. Very powerful.

This will do the job:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Logitech-H...em3aad4d b7a9

WAY better than 50 Squid (cheaper than in Oz):

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Logitech-H...em5420a8 8629


Do I have to come over and teach you guys how to use the internet?


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On 4/07/2015 8:18 PM, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
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Trevor Wilson wrote:
Which one? There seem to be lots of different ones with the same name -
and up to about 150 quid.


**The cheapest one, of course. I rather like the nice, colour screen
models, which are sometimes on special for less than 100 Bucks.
Nonetheless, I've used this one:

http://www.dicksmith.com.au/tv-video...ol-dsau-cn3609

On special, I've seen them for around 30 Bucks. I no longer bother with
'no-name' remotes, as the Logitech stuff works so nicely.

The 350 appears to be about £50 here. Which is more than a good used Linn
remote goes for on Ebay. They tend to make about £30.

**Here's what I found after about 3 minutes of searching:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Logitech-H...em5420a8 8629

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Logitech-H...em3aad4d b7a9

Personally, I'd buy one of these and control ALL your equipment, plus a
few of your neighbours' as well:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Logitech-H...em2c9ce3 77d0


If I could be sure it would work properly, might be worth not having to
wait for a used Linn at the right price.

**Check out the Logitech site. They're quite helpful.


Not actually a lover of Logitech. Had one of their wireless keyboards and
mouse - both with a so called lifetime warranty. Both were looking very
scruffy after a short time - the letters on the keyboard keys worn off on
the most used keys. They said this just fair wear and tear.


**Fair enough. I'm typing on a Logitech keyboard now (and matching RF
mouse). Several letters have worn off, but the damned thing still works
fine (as does the mouse). Mind you, my old IBM PS/2 keyboard was
designed to survive a nuclear holocaust. I used to hammed the crap out
of it, back in the 1980s when I played a lot of games. Damned thing
still works flawlessly. But, realistically, no one can afford to build
keyboards like that anymore.


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On 4/07/2015 10:32 PM, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
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Brian-Gaff wrote:
How can you copy the codes if you do not have the original remote though?

They give you a list of the control codes protocol numbers by maker.
Thousands of them. You enter the correct four digit code via the handset,
and it should then work. Assuming they have the correct 4 digit code, of
course. Which I doubt they'd have for a Linn. ;-)


**No, that is not how the Logitech systems works at all. You programme
the remote via a USB cable connected to your computer. You go on-line
and tell the Logitech people what you have (brand, model number, etc)
and it feeds the codes direct to your remote. You then go and test the
remote with your appliance. If it doesn't work, you plug it back in and
tell Logitech what doesn't work, whereupon it will continue searching
for the correct codes. I betcha it has the codes for your Linn.

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In article , Trevor Wilson
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On 4/07/2015 10:32 PM, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Brian-Gaff
wrote:
How can you copy the codes if you do not have the original remote
though?

They give you a list of the control codes protocol numbers by maker.
Thousands of them. You enter the correct four digit code via the
handset, and it should then work. Assuming they have the correct 4
digit code, of course. Which I doubt they'd have for a Linn. ;-)


**No, that is not how the Logitech systems works at all. You programme
the remote via a USB cable connected to your computer. You go on-line
and tell the Logitech people what you have (brand, model number, etc)
and it feeds the codes direct to your remote.

So you have to let someone else run software on your machine? Or do they
'simply' let you fetch an executable you have to run blind?

Or do they provide a data file and a simple explanation of how to get it
into the remote by some standard method like telnet, ftp, etc?

That raises all kinds of questions like:

How do you know the execution doesn't introduce some form of malware, etc,
into the host machine you use?

Does it require you to have bought and use a closed-source OS from an
foreign (i.e. non-UK, non-EU) company beyond the jurisdiction of your local
law?

Jim

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In article ,
Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 4/07/2015 10:32 PM, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Brian-Gaff wrote:
How can you copy the codes if you do not have the original remote though?

They give you a list of the control codes protocol numbers by maker.
Thousands of them. You enter the correct four digit code via the handset,
and it should then work. Assuming they have the correct 4 digit code, of
course. Which I doubt they'd have for a Linn. ;-)


**No, that is not how the Logitech systems works at all. You programme
the remote via a USB cable connected to your computer. You go on-line
and tell the Logitech people what you have (brand, model number, etc)
and it feeds the codes direct to your remote. You then go and test the
remote with your appliance. If it doesn't work, you plug it back in and
tell Logitech what doesn't work, whereupon it will continue searching
for the correct codes. I betcha it has the codes for your Linn.

Thanks, Trevor. Looks like the way forward.

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On 5/07/2015 6:33 PM, Jim Lesurf wrote:
In article , Trevor Wilson
wrote:
On 4/07/2015 10:32 PM, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Brian-Gaff
wrote:
How can you copy the codes if you do not have the original remote
though?

They give you a list of the control codes protocol numbers by maker.
Thousands of them. You enter the correct four digit code via the
handset, and it should then work. Assuming they have the correct 4
digit code, of course. Which I doubt they'd have for a Linn. ;-)


**No, that is not how the Logitech systems works at all. You programme
the remote via a USB cable connected to your computer. You go on-line
and tell the Logitech people what you have (brand, model number, etc)
and it feeds the codes direct to your remote.

So you have to let someone else run software on your machine? Or do they
'simply' let you fetch an executable you have to run blind?

Or do they provide a data file and a simple explanation of how to get it
into the remote by some standard method like telnet, ftp, etc?

That raises all kinds of questions like:

How do you know the execution doesn't introduce some form of malware, etc,
into the host machine you use?

Does it require you to have bought and use a closed-source OS from an
foreign (i.e. non-UK, non-EU) company beyond the jurisdiction of your local
law?

**I missed your smiley. You are kidding, right?

It's a remote control.
You download the codes to allow the remote to function with specific
appliances.



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In article , Trevor Wilson
wrote:
On 5/07/2015 6:33 PM, Jim Lesurf wrote:
In article , Trevor Wilson
wrote:
On 4/07/2015 10:32 PM, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Brian-Gaff
wrote:
How can you copy the codes if you do not have the original remote
though?

They give you a list of the control codes protocol numbers by maker.
Thousands of them. You enter the correct four digit code via the
handset, and it should then work. Assuming they have the correct 4
digit code, of course. Which I doubt they'd have for a Linn. ;-)


**No, that is not how the Logitech systems works at all. You
programme the remote via a USB cable connected to your computer. You
go on-line and tell the Logitech people what you have (brand, model
number, etc) and it feeds the codes direct to your remote.

So you have to let someone else run software on your machine? Or do
they 'simply' let you fetch an executable you have to run blind?

Or do they provide a data file and a simple explanation of how to get
it into the remote by some standard method like telnet, ftp, etc?

That raises all kinds of questions like:

How do you know the execution doesn't introduce some form of malware,
etc, into the host machine you use?

Does it require you to have bought and use a closed-source OS from an
foreign (i.e. non-UK, non-EU) company beyond the jurisdiction of your
local law?

**I missed your smiley. You are kidding, right?

Nope.

I read your "You go online...", "via USB cable", and "...it feeds the code
direct to your remote". To me that seems to imply fetching and running an
executable. Hence my questions to clarify precisely what is going on.

Did you mean "they give you a code string to type into the remote"?

It's a remote control. You download the codes to allow the remote to
function with specific appliances.

That doesn't clarify what I'm asking about *how* this is done, or if it can
be done using any OS, etc. Note that "any OS" isn't a synonym for "Windows
or Mac". :-)

Jim

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