Audio Banter

Audio Banter (https://www.audiobanter.co.uk/forum.php)
-   uk.rec.audio (General Audio and Hi-Fi) (https://www.audiobanter.co.uk/uk-rec-audio-general-audio/)
-   -   Couple of cd queries, model numbers later (https://www.audiobanter.co.uk/uk-rec-audio-general-audio/8962-couple-cd-queries-model-numbers.html)

Brian Gaff January 19th 16 08:18 AM

Couple of cd queries, model numbers later
 
OK I have a not that old but out of warranty Marantz cd player which is
supposed to and did play cdrw disc.

However over a time its stopped doing this and now has issues on some,
mainly home made but some commercial, discs as well. This manifests itself
as hunting either at the start or when you manually move a track u the
listing. It hunts for a couple of seconds then gives up with an error in the
display window. Unfortunately you need to eject the disc to get it to look
again.
I was just wondering whether this is just some drift in servos or a problem
with the laser.
This model was in fact from what I have seen, also sold as Philips as the
controls are in the same basic places and just the styling and case is
different, ie the Philips looks flimsy.

The other one is a brand new panasonic el cheapo dvd player. for around 40
quid. As such it works fine, and can even apparently do clever stuff with
ram sticks.
The one snag is that when playing cds, it always ducks the sound where a
track marker is, so say, a live cd with no breaks but track makers to help
you find parts of the recording tends to sound like a lot of small bits of
live performance.
It also has an annoying habit of chopping of the last few seconds of mp3
tracks both on cd and on ram sticks.
Looks to me like it needs some kind of firmware fix, but would not know if
this is true or its just a botched up cd player glued onto a dvd player.
This would not really matter if it were not for the fact that the actual
sound of it playing cds is amazingly good compared to many higher priced
players.
As I say, no head for part numbers but can get them when a pair of eyes
comes along later on.
Brian

--
----- -
This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from...
The Sofa of Brian Gaff...

Blind user, so no pictures please!


Java Jive January 19th 16 08:40 AM

Couple of cd queries, model numbers later
 
Brian,

Unless these are portable models, why not copy all your CDs/DVDs to a
PC with a large hard disk, and play them from there? All my original
disks are stored in boxes. I only ever play the file versions.

This has several advantages:
+ Convenience
+ You can play them on any device on the network
+ Security - the originals are safe from wear and tear,
and you can keep multiple backups on seperate units
around the home.
.... and in your particular case ....
+ You can use normal screen reading software,
rather than relying on special versions of hardware
for use of the blind, which might possibly be more expensive.

On Tue, 19 Jan 2016 09:18:44 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

OK I have a not that old but out of warranty Marantz cd player which ...
[snip]
The other one is a brand new panasonic el cheapo dvd player ...
[snip]

--
================================================== ======
Please always reply to ng as the email in this post's
header does not exist. Or use a contact address at:
http://www.macfh.co.uk/JavaJive/JavaJive.html
http://www.macfh.co.uk/Macfarlane/Macfarlane.html

Woody[_4_] January 19th 16 08:00 PM

Couple of cd queries, model numbers later
 

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
...
OK I have a not that old but out of warranty Marantz cd player
which is supposed to and did play cdrw disc.

However over a time its stopped doing this and now has issues on
some, mainly home made but some commercial, discs as well. This
manifests itself as hunting either at the start or when you manually
move a track u the listing. It hunts for a couple of seconds then
gives up with an error in the display window. Unfortunately you need
to eject the disc to get it to look again.
I was just wondering whether this is just some drift in servos or a
problem with the laser.
This model was in fact from what I have seen, also sold as Philips
as the controls are in the same basic places and just the styling
and case is different, ie the Philips looks flimsy.

The other one is a brand new panasonic el cheapo dvd player. for
around 40 quid. As such it works fine, and can even apparently do
clever stuff with ram sticks.
The one snag is that when playing cds, it always ducks the sound
where a track marker is, so say, a live cd with no breaks but track
makers to help you find parts of the recording tends to sound like a
lot of small bits of live performance.
It also has an annoying habit of chopping of the last few seconds of
mp3 tracks both on cd and on ram sticks.
Looks to me like it needs some kind of firmware fix, but would not
know if this is true or its just a botched up cd player glued onto a
dvd player. This would not really matter if it were not for the fact
that the actual sound of it playing cds is amazingly good compared
to many higher priced players.
As I say, no head for part numbers but can get them when a pair of
eyes comes along later on.



The problem with the Marantz is likely dust on the lens. You can buy a
cleaner disc which has a row of small bristles on the playing side. An
aerosol duster blown on the lens when it is exposed also works.


--
Woody

harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com



Eiron[_3_] January 20th 16 08:31 AM

Couple of cd queries, model numbers later
 
On 19/01/2016 21:00, Woody wrote:

The problem with the Marantz is likely dust on the lens. You can buy a
cleaner disc which has a row of small bristles on the playing side. An
aerosol duster blown on the lens when it is exposed also works.


The problem with the Marantz is not dust on the lens but rather
the fact that it's a Marantz. Best to visit your local charity shop
and get a Sony for twenty quid (or another reputable brand.)

There is still a place for a dedicated CD player. It will play within
a couple of seconds of switching it on and you don't need a TV to see
what it's doing.

--
Eiron.


Brian Gaff January 20th 16 09:05 AM

Couple of cd queries, model numbers later
 
No eyes just yet.
Brian

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
...
OK I have a not that old but out of warranty Marantz cd player which is
supposed to and did play cdrw disc.

However over a time its stopped doing this and now has issues on some,
mainly home made but some commercial, discs as well. This manifests itself
as hunting either at the start or when you manually move a track u the
listing. It hunts for a couple of seconds then gives up with an error in
the display window. Unfortunately you need to eject the disc to get it to
look again.
I was just wondering whether this is just some drift in servos or a
problem with the laser.
This model was in fact from what I have seen, also sold as Philips as the
controls are in the same basic places and just the styling and case is
different, ie the Philips looks flimsy.

The other one is a brand new panasonic el cheapo dvd player. for around 40
quid. As such it works fine, and can even apparently do clever stuff with
ram sticks.
The one snag is that when playing cds, it always ducks the sound where a
track marker is, so say, a live cd with no breaks but track makers to help
you find parts of the recording tends to sound like a lot of small bits of
live performance.
It also has an annoying habit of chopping of the last few seconds of mp3
tracks both on cd and on ram sticks.
Looks to me like it needs some kind of firmware fix, but would not know if
this is true or its just a botched up cd player glued onto a dvd player.
This would not really matter if it were not for the fact that the actual
sound of it playing cds is amazingly good compared to many higher priced
players.
As I say, no head for part numbers but can get them when a pair of eyes
comes along later on.
Brian

--
----- -
This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from...
The Sofa of Brian Gaff...

Blind user, so no pictures please!


--
----- -
This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from...
The Sofa of Brian Gaff...

Blind user, so no pictures please!


Brian Gaff January 20th 16 09:07 AM

Couple of cd queries, model numbers later
 
Yes I know I like to play cds though.I'm notinto putting all my eggs in one
big basket.
Brian

"Java Jive" wrote in message
...
Brian,

Unless these are portable models, why not copy all your CDs/DVDs to a
PC with a large hard disk, and play them from there? All my original
disks are stored in boxes. I only ever play the file versions.

This has several advantages:
+ Convenience
+ You can play them on any device on the network
+ Security - the originals are safe from wear and tear,
and you can keep multiple backups on seperate units
around the home.
... and in your particular case ....
+ You can use normal screen reading software,
rather than relying on special versions of hardware
for use of the blind, which might possibly be more expensive.

On Tue, 19 Jan 2016 09:18:44 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

OK I have a not that old but out of warranty Marantz cd player which ...
[snip]
The other one is a brand new panasonic el cheapo dvd player ...
[snip]

--
================================================== ======
Please always reply to ng as the email in this post's
header does not exist. Or use a contact address at:
http://www.macfh.co.uk/JavaJive/JavaJive.html
http://www.macfh.co.uk/Macfarlane/Macfarlane.html


--
----- -
This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from...
The Sofa of Brian Gaff...

Blind user, so no pictures please!


Brian Gaff January 20th 16 09:09 AM

Couple of cd queries, model numbers later
 
Tried the dusting bit with no success, unless its really glued on somehow.
Worth a second try. I note in its instructions it sys do not use cleaning
discs as they might damage it.
Brian

"Woody" wrote in message
...

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
...
OK I have a not that old but out of warranty Marantz cd player which is
supposed to and did play cdrw disc.

However over a time its stopped doing this and now has issues on some,
mainly home made but some commercial, discs as well. This manifests
itself as hunting either at the start or when you manually move a track u
the listing. It hunts for a couple of seconds then gives up with an error
in the display window. Unfortunately you need to eject the disc to get it
to look again.
I was just wondering whether this is just some drift in servos or a
problem with the laser.
This model was in fact from what I have seen, also sold as Philips as the
controls are in the same basic places and just the styling and case is
different, ie the Philips looks flimsy.

The other one is a brand new panasonic el cheapo dvd player. for around
40 quid. As such it works fine, and can even apparently do clever stuff
with ram sticks.
The one snag is that when playing cds, it always ducks the sound where a
track marker is, so say, a live cd with no breaks but track makers to
help you find parts of the recording tends to sound like a lot of small
bits of live performance.
It also has an annoying habit of chopping of the last few seconds of mp3
tracks both on cd and on ram sticks.
Looks to me like it needs some kind of firmware fix, but would not know
if this is true or its just a botched up cd player glued onto a dvd
player. This would not really matter if it were not for the fact that the
actual sound of it playing cds is amazingly good compared to many higher
priced players.
As I say, no head for part numbers but can get them when a pair of eyes
comes along later on.



The problem with the Marantz is likely dust on the lens. You can buy a
cleaner disc which has a row of small bristles on the playing side. An
aerosol duster blown on the lens when it is exposed also works.


--
Woody

harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com


--
----- -
This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from...
The Sofa of Brian Gaff...

Blind user, so no pictures please!


Brian Gaff January 20th 16 09:12 AM

Couple of cd queries, model numbers later
 
So not a fan of Marantz then, When it works the sound is far better than
many other machines I've tried, far less bright and seems to be giving a
better more natural dynamic range.
Brian

"Eiron" wrote in message
...
On 19/01/2016 21:00, Woody wrote:

The problem with the Marantz is likely dust on the lens. You can buy a
cleaner disc which has a row of small bristles on the playing side. An
aerosol duster blown on the lens when it is exposed also works.


The problem with the Marantz is not dust on the lens but rather
the fact that it's a Marantz. Best to visit your local charity shop
and get a Sony for twenty quid (or another reputable brand.)

There is still a place for a dedicated CD player. It will play within
a couple of seconds of switching it on and you don't need a TV to see
what it's doing.

--
Eiron.


--
----- -
This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from...
The Sofa of Brian Gaff...

Blind user, so no pictures please!


Eiron[_3_] January 20th 16 09:28 AM

Couple of cd queries, model numbers later
 
On 20/01/2016 10:05, Bob Latham wrote:
In article ,
Eiron wrote:

There is still a place for a dedicated CD player. It will play within
a couple of seconds of switching it on and you don't need a TV to see
what it's doing.


I'm sorry personally I don't agree. I think that in the home the CD player
is now obsolete. A small NAS holds my entire CD collection which has been
boxed up in the loft for years now, should get rid really. Controlled by
any modern mobile phone or tablet and no TV needed at all.
Far, far better in every way.


How about Brian's requirement for no audible gap or dropout between tracks?
Important for classical or prog fans....

--
Eiron.


Woody[_4_] January 20th 16 09:33 AM

Couple of cd queries, model numbers later
 

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
...
So not a fan of Marantz then, When it works the sound is far better
than many other machines I've tried, far less bright and seems to be
giving a better more natural dynamic range.



I too have a Marantz CD5400SE and I couldn't agree more. I have
previously owned two Philips machines and they are essentially the
same and also sound very musical.


--
Woody

harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com




All times are GMT. The time now is 09:07 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.0.0
Copyright ©2004-2006 AudioBanter.co.uk