Couple of cd queries, model numbers later
 

In article ,
Brian Gaff wrote:
Tried the dusting bit with no success, unless its really glued on
somehow. Worth a second try. I note in its instructions it sys do not
use cleaning discs as they might damage it.

It might well have a coating of something on it. Things like nicotine or
other things that can float about in the air. From say the kitchen. So
other than dust.

And such things won't be shifted by an air duster.

--
*Time is what keeps everything from happening at once.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Couple of cd queries, model numbers later
 

In article ,
Bob Latham wrote:
I'm sorry personally I don't agree. I think that in the home the CD
player is now obsolete. A small NAS holds my entire CD collection which
has been boxed up in the loft for years now, should get rid really.
Controlled by any modern mobile phone or tablet and no TV needed at all.
Far, far better in every way.

I've wondered about doing something like this.

However, the snags as I see them:-

It's not going to be as fast to get up and running as a CD player - from
switch on. Or you leave it running permanently?

Have you ripped the CDs raw - or used MP3 etc? Big difference in the
storage needed.

Many computer based systems have less than perfect analogue outputs.

--
*Procrastination is the art of keeping up with yesterday.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Couple of cd queries, model numbers later
 

On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 11:13:03 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Bob Latham wrote:
I'm sorry personally I don't agree. I think that in the home the CD
player is now obsolete. A small NAS holds my entire CD collection which
has been boxed up in the loft for years now, should get rid really.
Controlled by any modern mobile phone or tablet and no TV needed at all.
Far, far better in every way.

Same here, though I have no intention of getting rid of the originals.
My entire media collection - including CDs, DVDs, downloads, and
things recorded off air - is now just about filling up a 3GB disk,
but not all of that is wanted all the time, so there is scope for
copying elsewhere or deleting quite a bit.

I've wondered about doing something like this.

However, the snags as I see them:-

It's not going to be as fast to get up and running as a CD player - from
switch on.


I think my laptop probably comes quicker than my DVD player, even from
a cold start.

Or you leave it running permanently?

Usually at least one of the NASs is permanently on.

Have you ripped the CDs raw - or used MP3 etc? Big difference in the
storage needed.

Mine are raw WAV files, but one could use flac or ape lossless
compression, the former seems to be more popular, and therefore is
likely to be better supported, than the latter, but note that some
versions of Microsoft Media Player won't support either without adding
extra codecs, or some such.

Many computer based systems have less than perfect analogue outputs.

I use a Terratec USB MkII soundcard rather than the one in the laptop,
but that's just because the HiFi is the other side of the kitchen, and
it's easier to find a long USB lead than a long stereo lead!

Or else you could use one of the better quality Network Media Players
that have digital audio outputs.
--
================================================== ======
Please always reply to ng as the email in this post's
header does not exist. Or use a contact address at:
http://www.macfh.co.uk/JavaJive/JavaJive.html
http://www.macfh.co.uk/Macfarlane/Macfarlane.html

Couple of cd queries, model numbers later
 

On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 12:23:54 +0000, Java Jive
wrote:

Same here, though I have no intention of getting rid of the originals.
My entire media collection - including CDs, DVDs, downloads, and
things recorded off air - is now just about filling up a 3GB disk,
but not all of that is wanted all the time, so there is scope for
copying elsewhere or deleting quite a bit.

I hope you spotted the 'deliberate' mistake - 3TB!
--
================================================== ======
Please always reply to ng as the email in this post's
header does not exist. Or use a contact address at:
http://www.macfh.co.uk/JavaJive/JavaJive.html
http://www.macfh.co.uk/Macfarlane/Macfarlane.html

Couple of cd queries, model numbers later
 

In article , Bob Latham
wrote:
In article , Eiron
wrote:

There is still a place for a dedicated CD player. It will play within
a couple of seconds of switching it on and you don't need a TV to see
what it's doing.

I'm sorry personally I don't agree. I think that in the home the CD
player is now obsolete. A small NAS holds my entire CD collection which
has been boxed up in the loft for years now, should get rid really.

I'm still using CD players to play CDs. Mainly because I have sufficient
CDs that it would take a hell of a long time to rip them all and scan all
the booklets. That said, the CD players I use most are an Audio CD recorder
and a Player + DAC combination.

I do have a few hundred CDs ripped, but only do a few more on occasion
(some today, asitappens!) Been doing them in batches for a few years now.
Alas I seem to still be getting them faster than I rip them!

Actually, in practice most of the files I add to NAS are either 96k/24
recordings from LPs/tapes or aac files from iplayer.

All flac.

The LPs take even longer to sort out! Clicks to remove from the worse
cases, and scanning 12" square covers is a real PITA. Requires a session
with GIMP to paste the scans together as I only have an A4 scanner.

But I'm doing them ready for the day that my Shure V15 stylii become
unusuable. Also handy for when I want to hear one whilst cooking dinner.
:-)

So in practice I find that making file copies of old LPs and tapes makes
more sense. You can then clean up defects and actually get better results
without the fuss-about of using a real record deck to hear the results.

Whereas putting a CD into a CD player isn't exactly a difficult task.

Controlled by any modern mobile phone or tablet and no TV needed at all.
Far, far better in every way.

Afraid I find reading real ink-on-paper sleeve notes far easier than
looking at scans. In that area 'analogue rules' for me. 8-]

Jim

--
Please use the address on the audiomisc page if you wish to email me.
Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm
Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html
Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html

Couple of cd queries, model numbers later
 

In article , Eiron
wrote:
On 20/01/2016 10:05, Bob Latham wrote:
In article , Eiron
wrote:

There is still a place for a dedicated CD player. It will play within
a couple of seconds of switching it on and you don't need a TV to see
what it's doing.

I'm sorry personally I don't agree. I think that in the home the CD
player is now obsolete. A small NAS holds my entire CD collection
which has been boxed up in the loft for years now, should get rid
really. Controlled by any modern mobile phone or tablet and no TV
needed at all. Far, far better in every way.

How about Brian's requirement for no audible gap or dropout between
tracks? Important for classical or prog fans....

Shouldn't be a problem these days. The Linux and RO players I use do
'gapless' OK.

Jim

--
Please use the address on the audiomisc page if you wish to email me.
Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm
Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html
Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html

Couple of cd queries, model numbers later
 

In article , Java Jive
wrote:

Mine are raw WAV files, but one could use flac or ape lossless
compression, the former seems to be more popular, and therefore is
likely to be better supported, than the latter, but note that some
versions of Microsoft Media Player won't support either without adding
extra codecs, or some such.

Since flac is open source it can continue to always be available. All else
failing, anyone who wants can re-use the source code to get at the flac
file contents. It also works fine, so I don't see it dissappearing any time
soon.

Jim

--
Please use the address on the audiomisc page if you wish to email me.
Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm
Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html
Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html

Couple of cd queries, model numbers later
 

In article , Bob Latham
wrote:

I've been using home network streaming now for 3 or 4 years and would
not go back to CDs. I have all of my music anywhere in the house at
anytime with no discs cluttering up the place and needing storage space.
Biggest step forward in practical home music ever, IMHO.

I can play a CD and hear it via the same sound systems I can use to play
files from a NAS. So have the choice. I keep the CDs I've ripped:

A) Just in case I need them again because I've lost the rips and their
backups.

B) Copyright. It seems fair enough to me to use a ripped copy for
convenience *provided* I don't sell or give away the source CDs. Doing than
and keeping the rips would be piracy in my view.

Similarly, I keep the LPs I've made files from.

It does save some space as I can forgo things like the CD cases. But still
have to store the CDs and LPs somewhere safe from damage.

Jim

--
Please use the address on the audiomisc page if you wish to email me.
Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm
Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html
Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html

Couple of cd queries, model numbers later
 

In article ,
Bob Latham wrote:
In article ,
Jim Lesurf wrote:

Whereas putting a CD into a CD player isn't exactly a difficult task.

But you can't flit around your entire record collection at will without
getting out of your comfy chair or even out of bed if you're ill. You
can't make a play list for future use or allow for someone playing a
different part of the same recording somewhere else in the house at the
same time.

I appreciate that you may not wish to do those things but CDs can't do
them streaming can.

I'm not sure I want to 'flit' round my entire collection anyway. Generally
decide what I want to listen to. Rather than have it as background music.
I've got the radio for that.

More fun looking for a particular CD and perhaps coming across a different
one. And same as LPs, the picture on the case can be very evocative.

--
*Can fat people go skinny-dipping?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Couple of cd queries, model numbers later
 

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Bob Latham wrote:
In article ,
Jim Lesurf wrote:

Whereas putting a CD into a CD player isn't exactly a difficult
task.

But you can't flit around your entire record collection at will
without
getting out of your comfy chair or even out of bed if you're ill.
You
can't make a play list for future use or allow for someone playing
a
different part of the same recording somewhere else in the house at
the
same time.

I appreciate that you may not wish to do those things but CDs can't
do
them streaming can.

I'm not sure I want to 'flit' round my entire collection anyway.
Generally
decide what I want to listen to. Rather than have it as background
music.
I've got the radio for that.

More fun looking for a particular CD and perhaps coming across a
different
one. And same as LPs, the picture on the case can be very evocative.



+1



--
Woody

harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com