In article ,
tony sayer wrote:

I bought a pair of KEF kit 3s then too, later improving them with
rebuilt crossovers plus massively deadened the cabinets. Sold them a
couple of years on at a small profit, after buying a second hand pair
of ESL57s.

I kept them for nearly 30 years.


.... Phil

Still got the ESL57's?...

Can you still get them fixed? Pal had a pair, and they tended to need
fixing every few years. But did sound wonderful when good.

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*It sounds like English, but I can't understand a word you're saying.

Dave Plowman London SW
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tony sayer wrote:


I bought a pair of KEF kit 3s then too, later improving them with rebuilt
crossovers plus massively deadened the cabinets.
Sold them a couple of years on
at a small profit, after buying a second hand pair of ESL57s.

I kept them for nearly 30 years.


Still got the ESL57's?...
--


** No, thirty years expired in 2002.

Since then I entertained borrowed ESL63s driven by Quad 405s and 306s for a long while - verrrry nice.

Then I purchased a pair of used ESL63s from an authorised Quad dealer and unfortunately had to return them for a full refund. You do NOT wanna know the legal hassles that involved.

Now I content myself with a pair of 3-way speakers, employing all Vifa drivers in *heavily modified* cabinets that once housed AR2Axs.

I fancy they sound rather better than KEF Concertos but not quite as good as the phenomenal Yamaha NS1000s.



..... Phil

In article , Phil
Allison scribeth thus
tony sayer wrote:


I bought a pair of KEF kit 3s then too, later improving them with rebuilt
crossovers plus massively deadened the cabinets.
Sold them a couple of years on
at a small profit, after buying a second hand pair of ESL57s.

I kept them for nearly 30 years.


Still got the ESL57's?...
--


** No, thirty years expired in 2002.

Since then I entertained borrowed ESL63s driven by Quad 405s and 306s for a long
while - verrrry nice.

:-)..

Then I purchased a pair of used ESL63s from an authorised Quad dealer and
unfortunately had to return them for a full refund. You do NOT wanna know the
legal hassles that involved.

Nope!, lots to do with repairing and replacing errant panels no doubt.
And is there anyone K to do that in Oz suppose the carriage back to
Huntingdon is the price of a new pair;!..


Now I content myself with a pair of 3-way speakers, employing all Vifa drivers
in *heavily modified* cabinets that once housed AR2Axs.

I fancy they sound rather better than KEF Concertos but not quite as good as the
phenomenal Yamaha NS1000s.

Yep one of the good designs..



.... Phil



--
Tony Sayer

In article ,
Phil Allison wrote:
Dave Plowman (Nutcase) wrote:



Hmm. Pretty well known that things recorded on headphones will only
sound their best when listened to on headphones.


** Only well known to lunatics like the Plowmaniac.

Some 40 years of actually balancing sound for a living tells me different.
That you've no experience of the obvious differences just tells me you
have ears of cloth.


I am reminded of the advertising campaign used by JBL for several years
where they claimed that since the majority of US pop/jazz music studios
used JBL monitors in their for control rooms - it was only logical to
use JBL brand speakers in your home, in order to hear the sound as the
engineers intended.

There is also some truth in that. Using exactly the same loudspeakers is
likely to give the most consistent results. But saying all models from one
maker sound the same is nonsense. Even before you take into account the
room acoustics.

Luckily, most audiophiles ignored this patent absurdity and used much
better speakers instead.

You think you need to be an 'audiophile' to realise advertising is not
always 100% true?

You must lead a *very* sheltered life.



.... Phil



.... Phil

--
*A day without sunshine is like... night.*

Dave Plowman London SW
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Dave Plowman ( Nutcase ) wrote:


Hmm. Pretty well known that things recorded on headphones will only
sound their best when listened to on headphones.


** Only well known to lunatics like the Plowmaniac.


Some 40 years of actually balancing sound for a living tells me different.



** Do the demonic voices in your head say that to you - Dave ??

While you are sleeping or awake - or is it both ?



I am reminded of the advertising campaign used by JBL for several years
where they claimed that since the majority of US pop/jazz music studios
used JBL monitors in their for control rooms - it was only logical to
use JBL brand speakers in your home, in order to hear the sound as the
engineers intended.

There is also some truth in that.



** There is not one, tiny bit of truth in it.

For the record:

Dave Nutcase is a revolting pile of narcissistic, pommy puke.

On a good day, that is....



..... Phil

In article ,
Phil Allison wrote:
Dave Plowman ( Nutcase ) wrote:


Hmm. Pretty well known that things recorded on headphones will only
sound their best when listened to on headphones.


** Only well known to lunatics like the Plowmaniac.


Some 40 years of actually balancing sound for a living tells me
different.



** Do the demonic voices in your head say that to you - Dave ??

That from the Oz nutcase most will only remember from the wobblies he's
thrown on here...


Pet, if you've not got anything useful to contribute to a discussion, why
waste the bandwidth?

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*He who laughs last, thinks slowest.

Dave Plowman London SW
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Dave Plowmaniac (Nutcase Psycho) wrote:



Hmm. Pretty well known that things recorded on headphones will only
sound their best when listened to on headphones.


** Only well known to lunatics like the Plowmaniac.


Some 40 years of actually balancing sound for a living tells me
different.



** Do the demonic voices in your head say that to you - Dave ??


That from the Oz nutcase most will only remember from the wobblies he's
thrown on here...


Pet,


** Forget being clever with me, you asinine pile of pommy excreta.

Your putrid stench reaches all the way to Australia.

Kindly FOAD.


..... Phil

In article ,
Phil Allison wrote:
That from the Oz nutcase most will only remember from the wobblies he's
thrown on here...


Pet,


** Forget being clever with me, you asinine pile of pommy excreta.

Your putrid stench reaches all the way to Australia.

Thanks for confirming my point.

You are just sooooooooooooooo predictable.

--
*What was the best thing before sliced bread? *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.