Dunno but I don't think there was any connection to Roy rogers.
Brian

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"Eiron" wrote in message
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To hijack the thread, I wonder if there was a connection between Rogers in
Catford who made amps
and Rogers in Mitcham, ten miles away, who made speakers.
And CJ Rogers who designed speakers, for that matter. I'd better start
googling it.
(Jim Rogers of JR149 fame founded the Mitcham business.)

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On 20/11/2016 12:13, Brian-Gaff wrote:
Dunno but I don't think there was any connection to Roy rogers.
Brian


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In article , Eiron
wrote:
To hijack the thread, I wonder if there was a connection between Rogers
in Catford who made amps and Rogers in Mitcham, ten miles away, who made
speakers. And CJ Rogers who designed speakers, for that matter. I'd
better start googling it. (Jim Rogers of JR149 fame founded the Mitcham
business.)

IIRC it was the same Rogers who sold amps, etc, from Catford who then
started up Jim Rogers and made the JR149. His old company was bought up via
'Swisstone'. Think this was in 1977 but I'm relying on my unreliable
memory. Had to use a different name as his first company 'owned' that name
for the purposes of making and selling.

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On 20/11/2016 14:53, Graeme Wall wrote:
On 20/11/2016 12:13, Brian-Gaff wrote:
Dunno but I don't think there was any connection to Roy rogers.
Brian


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The idea that if you want to buy a pair of decent speakers these days
you need to talk to the Loan Arranger.

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In article ,
Jim Lesurf wrote:
In article , Eiron
wrote:
To hijack the thread, I wonder if there was a connection between
Rogers in Catford who made amps and Rogers in Mitcham, ten miles away,
who made speakers. And CJ Rogers who designed speakers, for that
matter. I'd better start googling it. (Jim Rogers of JR149 fame
founded the Mitcham business.)

IIRC it was the same Rogers who sold amps, etc, from Catford who then
started up Jim Rogers and made the JR149. His old company was bought up
via 'Swisstone'. Think this was in 1977 but I'm relying on my unreliable
memory. Had to use a different name as his first company 'owned' that
name for the purposes of making and selling.

Think that's right. Although he became known as Jim Rogers after selling
his company. Rogers made a lot of money out of the LS3/5a, so the JR 149
was an attempt to cash in on that. And it was a nice little speaker.

The badging on a Rogers Cadet looks the same design as on much later
Rogers speakers. So I'd guess a trade mark.

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Just a shot in the dark, or horsing around I guess.
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Phil Allison wrote:


speaking of UK Vintage Hi-Fi, a Rogers Cadet II system turned up for
repair this week. Three units in a cardboard box - main amp, control
unit and phono pre-amp. See pic of similar system:

http://lab.sekaimon.com/img/fetch/i/321656407324

There was a little rust on the tops of the units suggesting storage
in a garage for some time, the white plastic buttons on the push
switches had disintegrated and the front of the control unit was
discoloured. OTOH, the large can electros had been replaced and all
the valves were Mullard made in UK. I doubt if they were the originals.



** Had a chat with the owner this afternoon, fist chance for me since he delivered the system to a retail store I deal with.

The Cadet II set up belonged to his father and the Mullard valves are all ORIGINAL, so 50+ years old !!!!

He also has a pair of Leak 3-way speakers with 12 inch woofers from the same era to use with it.

Nice going, Mr Rogers.



..... Phil

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Phil Allison wrote:
** Had a chat with the owner this afternoon, fist chance for me since he
delivered the system to a retail store I deal with.

The Cadet II set up belonged to his father and the Mullard valves are
all ORIGINAL, so 50+ years old !!!!

Which simply means it hasn't had much use. All valves wear out eventually.
And pentode output valves like EL84 not known for a long life.

He also has a pair of Leak 3-way speakers with 12 inch woofers from the
same era to use with it.

Interesting - which model? Most Leaks were two-way.

Nice going, Mr Rogers.

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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:


** Had a chat with the owner this afternoon, fist chance for me since he
delivered the system to a retail store I deal with.

The Cadet II set up belonged to his father and the Mullard valves are
all ORIGINAL, so 50+ years old !!!!

Which simply means it hasn't had much use. All valves wear out eventually.
And pentode output valves like EL84 not known for a long life.


** Even valves left in their boxes often do not last 50+ years - developing faults like going gassy. These valves have likely not had a huge amount of use, nevertheless to see all 8 in near perfect condition is remarkable.



He also has a pair of Leak 3-way speakers with 12 inch woofers from the
same era to use with it.

Interesting - which model? Most Leaks were two-way.


** Leak made numerous 3-way models too, ones with 12 inch woofers include the Sandwich 600 and the 2060. Sandwich 600s were made in Australia at one time so are likely suspects here. The owner said the speakers were labelled 8ohm.

Rank took over Leak and Wharfedale production in the 70s, so some cross pollination with mid ranges and tweeters went on.


..... Phil

In article ,
Phil Allison wrote:
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:


** Had a chat with the owner this afternoon, fist chance for me
since he delivered the system to a retail store I deal with.

The Cadet II set up belonged to his father and the Mullard valves
are all ORIGINAL, so 50+ years old !!!!

Which simply means it hasn't had much use. All valves wear out
eventually. And pentode output valves like EL84 not known for a long
life.


** Even valves left in their boxes often do not last 50+ years -
developing faults like going gassy. These valves have likely not had a
huge amount of use, nevertheless to see all 8 in near perfect condition
is remarkable.

Yes it is. I had two valve amps in the day - Quad II and Radford STA25
(both bought used). Both needed valve replacement at some time while in
use. And the period I had them nothing like 50 years. Be interesting to
know just how those survived so well/



He also has a pair of Leak 3-way speakers with 12 inch woofers from
the same era to use with it.

Interesting - which model? Most Leaks were two-way.


** Leak made numerous 3-way models too, ones with 12 inch woofers
include the Sandwich 600 and the 2060. Sandwich 600s were made in
Australia at one time so are likely suspects here. The owner said the
speakers were labelled 8ohm.

Rank took over Leak and Wharfedale production in the 70s, so some cross
pollination with mid ranges and tweeters went on.


Right. Leak had a brief period of popularity in the UK when they first
brought out the sandwich. But after that I personally didn't see them very
often. Obviously, depends on what your friends etc bought.

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