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Iain Churches wrote:

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In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:
As there wasn't such a demand for such a device in my particular
field as there obviously was in yours.

Did you have close co-operation with BBC Radio?

Given I worked for ITV, unlikely.

You have mentioned being at Thames for a short
time.

I was staff at Thames for longer than staff at the BBC. I've no idea where
you got the idea this was a 'short time'.

In another current thread you talk about your
knowledge of what was being made by BBC TV
when you were there. So my assumption that you
had contacts at BH was natural.

You have rather obviously no conception of the size of the BBC. ;-)

We went to BH several times to discuss ideas.
They had a number of cryptically-numbered black
boxes which they demonstrated to us, and some very
clever people. They could have easily done it for you.

Are you saying BBC radio regularly produced 'stereo' from mono? I'd be
surprised.

Please read again.
Like many others BBC Radio were experimenting
to see what could be done in the field of mono to
stereo conversion. As a result of our meetings at
BH a colleague and I were invited by Desmond Briscoe
to visit the BBC Radiophonic Workshop at Maida Vale.
He was surprised to meet people from outside the Beeb
who had both a technical and musical background (like himself)
and who were familiar with the wonderful ARP 2500 synthesizer.

Ah. Right. You mentioned Broadcasting House only, inferring it was
something in regular use. A standard production tool.

The Radiophonic Workshop could well have made use of all sorts of weird
and wonderful devices. That was what they did.

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You have rather obviously no conception of the size of the BBC. ;-)

Please don't try to tell me there was no co-operation between
departments, because I know that is not correct.

We went to BH several times to discuss ideas.
They had a number of cryptically-numbered black
boxes which they demonstrated to us, and some very
clever people. They could have easily done it for you.

Are you saying BBC radio regularly produced 'stereo' from mono? I'd be
surprised.

Please read again.
Like many others BBC Radio were experimenting
to see what could be done in the field of mono to
stereo conversion. As a result of our meetings at
BH a colleague and I were invited by Desmond Briscoe
to visit the BBC Radiophonic Workshop at Maida Vale.
He was surprised to meet people from outside the Beeb
who had both a technical and musical background (like himself)
and who were familiar with the wonderful ARP 2500 synthesizer.

Ah. Right. You mentioned Broadcasting House only, inferring it was
something in regular use. A standard production tool.

No inference at all.
BH was the place where the meetings were held.

The Radiophonic Workshop could well have made use of all sorts of weird
and wonderful devices. That was what they did.

They were not involved in mono to stereo as far as I know.
My colleague and I kept contact with Mr Briscoe, and
visíted often. They were pleased to talk with people on
the same wavelength, and with the similar skillsets.

Iain

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Iain Churches wrote:
Ah. Right. You mentioned Broadcasting House only, inferring it was
something in regular use. A standard production tool.

No inference at all.
BH was the place where the meetings were held.

But you suggested I ask for help there?

The Radiophonic Workshop could well have made use of all sorts of weird
and wonderful devices. That was what they did.

They were not involved in mono to stereo as far as I know.

Ah. OK. So why mention it?

My colleague and I kept contact with Mr Briscoe, and
visíted often. They were pleased to talk with people on
the same wavelength, and with the similar skillsets.

Nice to know both he and you had plenty spare time for social interaction.
;-)

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In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:
Ah. Right. You mentioned Broadcasting House only, inferring it was
something in regular use. A standard production tool.

No inference at all.
BH was the place where the meetings were held.

But you suggested I ask for help there?

Yes indeed. They had some very knowledgeable
people, who were able to work without the
visual restraints imposed by cameras. (If they needed
a ten foot mic tripod in the centre of the studio, then that's
where it went:-)

The Radiophonic Workshop could well have made use of all sorts of weird
and wonderful devices. That was what they did.

They were not involved in mono to stereo as far as I know.

Ah. OK. So why mention it?

Because it was one of the most interesting departments
of the BBC. Few people from outside, or even from
other departments within the BBC, got the chance to
go there.


They were pleased to talk with people on
the same wavelength, and with the similar skillsets.

Nice to know both he and you had plenty spare time for social interaction.
;-)

I worked 60 hours a week, so not much spare time:-)
Planning and production meetings, and the development
of new ideas, were an important part of each and
every project.

Iain

In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:
Ah. Right. You mentioned Broadcasting House only, inferring it was
something in regular use. A standard production tool.

No inference at all.
BH was the place where the meetings were held.

But you suggested I ask for help there?

Yes indeed. They had some very knowledgeable
people, who were able to work without the
visual restraints imposed by cameras. (If they needed
a ten foot mic tripod in the centre of the studio, then that's
where it went:-)

But not apparently on making decent stereo from mono?

We were much more sophisticated in TV studios. If you wanted a slung mic
or two, there were electrically operated hoists to put them on. And keep
the floor clear for more important things. ;-)

The Radiophonic Workshop could well have made use of all sorts of weird
and wonderful devices. That was what they did.

They were not involved in mono to stereo as far as I know.

Ah. OK. So why mention it?

Because it was one of the most interesting departments
of the BBC. Few people from outside, or even from
other departments within the BBC, got the chance to
go there.

Lots of very interesting departments in the BBC, Iain. Or rather once
were. Did you never visit Kingswood Warren?


They were pleased to talk with people on
the same wavelength, and with the similar skillsets.

Nice to know both he and you had plenty spare time for social interaction.
;-)

I worked 60 hours a week, so not much spare time:-)
Planning and production meetings, and the development
of new ideas, were an important part of each and
every project.

Iain

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Dave Plowman London SW
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In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:
BH was the place where the meetings were held.

But you suggested I ask for help there?

Yes indeed. They had some very knowledgeable
people, who were able to work without the
visual restraints imposed by cameras. (If they needed
a ten foot mic tripod in the centre of the studio, then that's
where it went:-)

But not apparently on making decent stereo from mono?

Yes. They had some interesting ideas. No-one was
labouring under the miscoception that stereo could be made
from mono. We talked about the stereo illusion.

I ask again, did you listen to my demo?
http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches...StereoDemo.mp3

Your comments would be of interest.

We were much more sophisticated in TV studios. If you wanted a slung mic
or two, there were electrically operated hoists to put them on. And keep
the floor clear for more important things. ;-)

Or stick the mic on with a lump of BlueTak :-)))

Lots of very interesting departments in the BBC, Iain. Or rather once
were. Did you never visit Kingswood Warren?

Yes. A friend of our family was a senior project engineer
there. It was he who suggested to me a career at the BBC.
It's probably long closed?

Iain

In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:
But not apparently on making decent stereo from mono?

Yes. They had some interesting ideas. No-one was
labouring under the miscoception that stereo could be made
from mono. We talked about the stereo illusion.

Thought I made by point earlier. You can't make good stereo from mono.
Any more than you can change lead into gold. But that has never stopped
people trying.

I ask again, did you listen to my demo?
http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches...StereoDemo.mp3

Your comments would be of interest.

Heh heh. Think what you actually mean is you want comments that you can
attempt to score points from. ;-)

We were much more sophisticated in TV studios. If you wanted a slung
mic or two, there were electrically operated hoists to put them on.
And keep the floor clear for more important things. ;-)

Or stick the mic on with a lump of BlueTak :-)))

You would rely on BlueTak to hold up an expensive slung mic, Iain? I'm
afraid most of us in TV have more respect for the tools of our trade. And
the health and safety of those around us.

But it is good you are keeping up with the current trend for 'fake
news'...

Lots of very interesting departments in the BBC, Iain. Or rather once
were. Did you never visit Kingswood Warren?

Yes. A friend of our family was a senior project engineer
there. It was he who suggested to me a career at the BBC.

So what went wrong?

It's probably long closed?

Indeed.

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