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Richard Robinson January 23rd 17 04:40 PM

Current trends in audio
 
Johan Helsingius said:
On 23-01-17 16:31, Iain Churches wrote:

(Ahem!). Actually Phil, Johan is a Swedish-speaking Finn.
They are in general some of the nicest and most cultured
people it will ever be your priviledge to meet.


As long as you can stand herring, vodka schnapps and
drinking songs... :)


And fiddle tunes ? Could there be fiddle tunes ?

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Iain Churches[_2_] January 23rd 17 04:51 PM

Current trends in audio
 

"Johan Helsingius" wrote in message
...
On 23-01-17 16:31, Iain Churches wrote:

(Ahem!). Actually Phil, Johan is a Swedish-speaking Finn.
They are in general some of the nicest and most cultured
people it will ever be your priviledge to meet.


As long as you can stand herring, vodka schnapps and
drinking songs... :)


Helan Går !


Iain



Johan Helsingius January 23rd 17 06:01 PM

Current trends in audio
 
On 23-01-17 18:51, Iain Churches wrote:

Helan Går !


Ooh! Respect! You are integrating! :)

Julf


Iain Churches[_2_] January 23rd 17 06:15 PM

Current trends in audio
 

"Richard Robinson" wrote in message
o.uk...
Johan Helsingius said:
As long as you can stand herring, vodka schnapps and
drinking songs... :)


And fiddle tunes ? Could there be fiddle tunes ?


Yes of course, and bears too!
http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches...Test/Bjern.mp3

Iain




Iain Churches[_2_] January 23rd 17 06:33 PM

Current trends in audio
 

"Graeme Wall" wrote in message
...
On 22/01/2017 12:51, Iain Churches wrote:
"Graeme Wall" wrote in message
...
On 22/01/2017 09:52, Iain Churches wrote:
"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
...
Bit unfair on des. I used to see him live and most of the time he
looked
better than on the screen. I strongly dispute this old thing of the
camera
never lies. I think that very much depends on how its adjusted in the
first place.
Brian

Yes. White balance.


More to do with make-up and lighting, the white balance on the camera
should be neutral.



It should be, but often is not, as one clearly sees
when the director cuts from one camera to another.
In this situation, makeup and lighting are unchanged.


I'm referring to the era when Des was (dis)gracing our screens when
line-ups were done properly and cameras matched on cuts (also mixes and
wipes!)

Was there such an era? I was probably at the fridge and missed it:-)))

Iain




Phil Allison[_3_] January 24th 17 12:46 AM

Current trends in audio
 
Iain Churches wrote:

Johan Helsingius wrote:



http://www.aes.org/e-lib/browse.cfm?elib=3839


** You gotta be ****ing kidding us !!!!!!!!!!

Pay $33 to read complete tripe ???

**** YOU !!!

FYI:

I have tolerated this pig ignorant, Dutch MP3 fascist far too long.

From now on, no more Mr Nice Guy.

Hey Joahan, get your hands off it.

This NG is about home Hi-Fi and you have no ****ing clue what that even
is.

You have no idea what anyone thinks - except you.

Cos you are a boorish, autistic moron.

Just like all Dutch pigs.


Actually Phil, Johan is a Swedish-speaking Finn.



** Who told us on Jan 22 that he was posting from Holland.

In the absence of contrary information, I was entitled to draw the obvious conclusion. Plus his smug, arrogant attitude spoke volumes.


They are in general some of the nicest and most cultured
people it will ever be your priviledge to meet.




** With Johan being a very obvious exception.

So he is one of your little bum boys - right ?

Wot a low piece of **** you are, Iain.




...... Phil

Phil Allison[_3_] January 24th 17 12:50 AM

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Johan Helsingius wrote:

On 23-01-17 14:33, Phil Allison wrote:

** You gotta be ****ing kidding us !!!!!!!!!!
Pay $33 to read complete tripe ???


Ah, so you are not an Audio Engineering Society member then?



** Nor a Scientologist or member of the KKK.

Very likely a scumbag like you is both.


FYI:

I have tolerated this pig ignorant, Dutch MP3 fascist far too long.
From now on, no more Mr Nice Guy.
Hey Joahan, get your hands off it.
This NG is about home Hi-Fi and you have no ****ing clue what that even is.
You have no idea what anyone thinks - except you.
Cos you are a boorish, autistic moron.
Just like all Dutch pigs.


FYI, you don't seem to be able to spell my name correctly,



** But I have you *summed up* just perfectly.

**** off and take you vile, pig ignorant mate Churches with you.



..... Phil





Jim Lesurf[_2_] January 24th 17 08:55 AM

MP3 coding (was Current trends in audio)
 
In article , Richard
Robinson wrote:
For music, LPCM tends to be wasteful. So you can reshuffle how it is
represented and that tends to reduce the number of bits required. Flac
works pretty well for this. Although that has the snag that genuine
random background noise is preserved just as if it were 'real'
information. This is the main reason many 'High Rez' flac files are so
big. Noise, carefully preserved in every detail, not actually
shedloads of more *musical* info.


Yes. That's not the code's problem, though, is it ? If you don't want to
throw anything away you get to keep what's there. Noise in noise out, to
paraphrase.


Yes. You can, of course, reduce the number of bits devoted to noise in some
cases. The classic method being to noise-shape down to fewer bits per
sample. This depends on how many were being wasted. But can have quite a
dramatic effect on the size of 'high rez' flac files or streams. See

http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/MQA/cool/bitfreezing.html

The above, curiously, turns out to be relevant to 'MQA' for reasons that
wouldn't be obvious from reading the MQA claims and documents! So it
something I've been particularly aware of in recent months.

Jim

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Dave Plowman (News) January 24th 17 10:23 AM

Current trends in audio
 
In article ,
Iain Churches wrote:
I'm referring to the era when Des was (dis)gracing our screens when
line-ups were done properly and cameras matched on cuts (also mixes and
wipes!)

Was there such an era? I was probably at the fridge and missed it:-)))


You like to give the impression you know everything about broadcasting
technical matters, Iain. That comment says you know very little.

If you'd ever been in a TV studio of any major broadcaster worthy of the
name at the beginning of the day, you'd have noticed all the cameras on a
chart etc being lined up. And that line up being checked before any
recording, etc.

I sort of assumed you'd understand this. Seems you simply switched on the
studios you work in and started recording with no checks.

--
*What do little birdies see when they get knocked unconscious? *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Johan Helsingius January 24th 17 11:03 AM

Current trends in audio
 
On 24-01-17 02:50, Phil Allison wrote:

** Nor a Scientologist or member of the KKK.
Very likely a scumbag like you is both.


I see you haven't bothered to look me up on google or
Wikipedia... :)

Julf






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