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Jim Lesurf[_2_] April 6th 17 01:13 PM

Radio 3 flac tests
 
People may find this test interesting. Despite the date on one page it is
*not* an April Fool! Note that it may only run for 4 weeks.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/taster/projects...d/inside-story

https://radio-3-concert-sound.pilots...dstudio.co.uk/

The DASH manifest is at:
https://vs-dash-ww-rd-live.bbcfmt.hs...t_manifest.mpd

Jim

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Brian Gaff April 6th 17 04:04 PM

Radio 3 flac tests
 
So they hide this away, and have no plans to give services. Interesting. I'd
have thought that if they did live stuff on the Radio 2 network they would
get more feedback, or is the idea to say nobody cares so we can carry on
doing what we do in crap quality.
Brian

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"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
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People may find this test interesting. Despite the date on one page it is
*not* an April Fool! Note that it may only run for 4 weeks.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/taster/projects...d/inside-story

https://radio-3-concert-sound.pilots...dstudio.co.uk/

The DASH manifest is at:
https://vs-dash-ww-rd-live.bbcfmt.hs...t_manifest.mpd

Jim

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Woody[_4_] April 6th 17 04:29 PM

Radio 3 flac tests
 
If you want to hear quality you need to start with quality. Much of
the more 'pop-ish' music on R2 has a fairly high level of compression
from which, realistically, there would be very little gain. On the
other hand much of R3 is high original high quality or is live which
will allow the lsitener to hear the difference.


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harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com



"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
...
So they hide this away, and have no plans to give services.
Interesting. I'd have thought that if they did live stuff on the
Radio 2 network they would get more feedback, or is the idea to say
nobody cares so we can carry on doing what we do in crap quality.
Brian

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The Sofa of Brian Gaff...

Blind user, so no pictures please!
"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
...
People may find this test interesting. Despite the date on one page
it is
*not* an April Fool! Note that it may only run for 4 weeks.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/taster/projects...d/inside-story

https://radio-3-concert-sound.pilots...dstudio.co.uk/

The DASH manifest is at:
https://vs-dash-ww-rd-live.bbcfmt.hs...t_manifest.mpd

Jim

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Please use the address on the audiomisc page if you wish to email
me.
Electronics
https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~www_pa...o/electron.htm
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http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html
Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html






Jim Lesurf[_2_] April 6th 17 04:39 PM

Radio 3 flac tests
 
I'd not call Radio 3 320k aac "crap quality". And you've missed the point
that this is a *test*. It may develop if successful and people encourage
them.

Jim

In article , Brian Gaff
wrote:
So they hide this away, and have no plans to give services. Interesting.
I'd have thought that if they did live stuff on the Radio 2 network they
would get more feedback, or is the idea to say nobody cares so we can
carry on doing what we do in crap quality. Brian


--
Please use the address on the audiomisc page if you wish to email me.
Electronics https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~www_pa...o/electron.htm
Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html
Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html


Eiron[_3_] April 6th 17 07:40 PM

Radio 3 flac tests
 
On 06/04/2017 14:13, Jim Lesurf wrote:
People may find this test interesting. Despite the date on one page it is
*not* an April Fool! Note that it may only run for 4 weeks.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/taster/projects...d/inside-story

https://radio-3-concert-sound.pilots...dstudio.co.uk/

The DASH manifest is at:
https://vs-dash-ww-rd-live.bbcfmt.hs...t_manifest.mpd


Bother! Only yesterday I bought a ticket for a concert and now I find
that I can stay at home and listen to it in very hi-fi.

Is there any way to record the stream?

--
Eiron.


Graham.[_4_] April 6th 17 08:55 PM

Radio 3 flac tests
 
On Thu, 06 Apr 2017 14:13:24 +0100, Jim Lesurf
wrote:

People may find this test interesting. Despite the date on one page it is
*not* an April Fool! Note that it may only run for 4 weeks.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/taster/projects...d/inside-story

https://radio-3-concert-sound.pilots...dstudio.co.uk/

The DASH manifest is at:
https://vs-dash-ww-rd-live.bbcfmt.hs...t_manifest.mpd

Jim


They recommend a broadband connection 2 milibits per second.
--

Graham.
%Profound_observation%

Brian Gaff April 7th 17 07:39 AM

Radio 3 flac tests
 
Well, it does not have to be that way. certainly back in 2000 r2 put out a
Bee Gees concert with wonderful dynamic range and quality on DAB. Some of
the concerts recorded for radio 1 in the 70s and 80s were very good also,
but when more recently they have rebroadcast some of them they are
compressed to hell and back. I know this as I have high quality recordings
from FM of the originals.
As I say, they need to decide what they are aiming for. Its not just
classical lovers who like good quality output.
The standards at the bbc have fallen to a new low and now I suspect most
listeners would be astounded just how realistic and good so called pop
concerts can be.

Brian

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"Woody" wrote in message
...
If you want to hear quality you need to start with quality. Much of the
more 'pop-ish' music on R2 has a fairly high level of compression from
which, realistically, there would be very little gain. On the other hand
much of R3 is high original high quality or is live which will allow the
lsitener to hear the difference.


--
Woody

harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com



"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
...
So they hide this away, and have no plans to give services. Interesting.
I'd have thought that if they did live stuff on the Radio 2 network they
would get more feedback, or is the idea to say nobody cares so we can
carry on doing what we do in crap quality.
Brian

--
----- -
This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from...
The Sofa of Brian Gaff...

Blind user, so no pictures please!
"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
...
People may find this test interesting. Despite the date on one page it
is
*not* an April Fool! Note that it may only run for 4 weeks.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/taster/projects...d/inside-story

https://radio-3-concert-sound.pilots...dstudio.co.uk/

The DASH manifest is at:
https://vs-dash-ww-rd-live.bbcfmt.hs...t_manifest.mpd

Jim

--
Please use the address on the audiomisc page if you wish to email me.
Electronics
https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~www_pa...o/electron.htm
Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html
Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html








Brian Gaff April 7th 17 07:41 AM

Radio 3 flac tests
 
Virtual recorder maybe?
Brian

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The Sofa of Brian Gaff...

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"Eiron" wrote in message
...
On 06/04/2017 14:13, Jim Lesurf wrote:
People may find this test interesting. Despite the date on one page it is
*not* an April Fool! Note that it may only run for 4 weeks.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/taster/projects...d/inside-story

https://radio-3-concert-sound.pilots...dstudio.co.uk/

The DASH manifest is at:
https://vs-dash-ww-rd-live.bbcfmt.hs...t_manifest.mpd


Bother! Only yesterday I bought a ticket for a concert and now I find
that I can stay at home and listen to it in very hi-fi.

Is there any way to record the stream?

--
Eiron.




Brian Gaff April 7th 17 07:44 AM

Radio 3 flac tests
 
Which is why I thought it was an April fool.
Also although flac is a compressed medium, its not a real time thing, its a
bit like zip. this is why very few players can play it like Ipods etc.

I also know from experience that any attempt to send such files over a lossy
compression won't work.
Brian

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This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from...
The Sofa of Brian Gaff...

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"Graham." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 06 Apr 2017 14:13:24 +0100, Jim Lesurf
wrote:

People may find this test interesting. Despite the date on one page it is
*not* an April Fool! Note that it may only run for 4 weeks.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/taster/projects...d/inside-story

https://radio-3-concert-sound.pilots...dstudio.co.uk/

The DASH manifest is at:
https://vs-dash-ww-rd-live.bbcfmt.hs...t_manifest.mpd

Jim


They recommend a broadband connection 2 milibits per second.
--

Graham.
%Profound_observation%




Jim Lesurf[_2_] April 7th 17 08:08 AM

Radio 3 flac tests
 
In article , Eiron
wrote:
On 06/04/2017 14:13, Jim Lesurf wrote:
People may find this test interesting. Despite the date on one page it
is *not* an April Fool! Note that it may only run for 4 weeks.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/taster/projects...d/inside-story

https://radio-3-concert-sound.pilots...dstudio.co.uk/

The DASH manifest is at:
https://vs-dash-ww-rd-live.bbcfmt.hs...t_manifest.mpd


Bother! Only yesterday I bought a ticket for a concert and now I find
that I can stay at home and listen to it in very hi-fi.


Is there any way to record the stream?


There probably will be various ways to do so. In fact, that's what I'm
trying to sort out at tghe moment! :-) The snag for me is that I want to
record what *arrives*. Not what may get though a browser and any OS
'mixers'. etc.

Jim

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Please use the address on the audiomisc page if you wish to email me.
Electronics https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~www_pa...o/electron.htm
Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html
Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html



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