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Woody[_4_] April 14th 17 10:08 PM

BBC FLAC trail this evening
 
Just been listening to the Brahms German Requiem live from the Chapel
of King's College Cambridge.

I have to say that I am not a particular lover of Brahms and even less
of his Requiem, but having been a resident of Cambridge years ago and
been to many concerts and choral evensongs in that Chapel I have to
say the sound was stunning - so real and clear, you could almost have
been there.

Ah well, just 18 more days to go so must make the most of it.



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Brian Gaff April 15th 17 08:20 AM

BBC FLAC trail this evening
 
I don't quite get the point of this, as if you really believe the stuff on
the site, it seems totally pointless if they have no plans to actually use
it long term for anything.
Brian

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Just been listening to the Brahms German Requiem live from the Chapel of
King's College Cambridge.

I have to say that I am not a particular lover of Brahms and even less of
his Requiem, but having been a resident of Cambridge years ago and been to
many concerts and choral evensongs in that Chapel I have to say the sound
was stunning - so real and clear, you could almost have been there.

Ah well, just 18 more days to go so must make the most of it.



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Jim Lesurf[_2_] April 15th 17 09:23 AM

BBC FLAC trail this evening
 
Top posted for Brian's sake.

AIUI The point is to see if they can stream it reliably, assess any
increase in server load, etc, a changeover would require, *and* get
positive feedback that people *want* it. They could then use the feedback
to argue that it justifies a likely increase in copyright permissions
payments, etc.

Not yet sure, but I've had the impression that they are also experimenting
with the details of how the stream is being served. e.g. I got some types
of error (from ffmpeg) on the 10th that haven't recurred more recently. But
as yet that may be luck!

Up to people who want it to now react by saying they do via the relevant
feedback routes. I'll certainly write about it for HFN. But, alas, that
won't appear for 3+ months.

Jim


In article , Brian Gaff
wrote:
I don't quite get the point of this, as if you really believe the stuff
on the site, it seems totally pointless if they have no plans to
actually use it long term for anything. Brian


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Adrian Caspersz April 15th 17 09:28 AM

BBC FLAC trail this evening
 
On 15/04/17 09:20, Brian Gaff wrote:
I don't quite get the point of this, as if you really believe the stuff on
the site, it seems totally pointless if they have no plans to actually use
it long term for anything.


A compensation for removing FM.

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Dave Plowman (News) April 15th 17 01:41 PM

BBC FLAC trail this evening
 
In article ,
Adrian Caspersz wrote:
On 15/04/17 09:20, Brian Gaff wrote:
I don't quite get the point of this, as if you really believe the
stuff on the site, it seems totally pointless if they have no plans to
actually use it long term for anything.


A compensation for removing FM.


Heard that rumour again the other day. Given how many listen in cars, I
can't see the commercial broadcasters being happy with that.
Do all cars have DAB these days? My newest one doesn't - despite having
the very expensive Bose upgrade sound system.

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Jim Lesurf[_2_] April 15th 17 01:45 PM

BBC FLAC trail this evening
 
In article , Bob Latham
wrote:
In article , Jim Lesurf
wrote:


Up to people who want it to now react by saying they do via the
relevant feedback routes.


Which are?


I think the BBC want people to use the link on

http://www.bbc.co.uk/taster/projects...d/inside-story

that goes to

http://www.bbc.co.uk/taster/projects...ert-sound/rate

However I'm not sure because I've been interacting more directly with
people thus far. I'm currently mainly focussed on capturing examples for
later listening and analysis.

However give the above a try and see if they are OK.

Jim

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Brian Gaff April 16th 17 08:33 AM

BBC FLAC trail this evening
 
Hmm, to me though as I said before, it really needs to be used on the more
mainstream channels and for that to be worth it, the BBC needs to up their
game engineering wise to at least as good as it was in the late 70s and
early 80s, not the leave a limiter in charge and go down the pub system they
to use these days.
Brian

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"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
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Top posted for Brian's sake.

AIUI The point is to see if they can stream it reliably, assess any
increase in server load, etc, a changeover would require, *and* get
positive feedback that people *want* it. They could then use the feedback
to argue that it justifies a likely increase in copyright permissions
payments, etc.

Not yet sure, but I've had the impression that they are also experimenting
with the details of how the stream is being served. e.g. I got some types
of error (from ffmpeg) on the 10th that haven't recurred more recently.
But
as yet that may be luck!

Up to people who want it to now react by saying they do via the relevant
feedback routes. I'll certainly write about it for HFN. But, alas, that
won't appear for 3+ months.

Jim


In article , Brian Gaff
wrote:
I don't quite get the point of this, as if you really believe the stuff
on the site, it seems totally pointless if they have no plans to
actually use it long term for anything. Brian


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Brian Gaff April 16th 17 08:35 AM

BBC FLAC trail this evening
 
Who the heck actually does? Smoke signals perhaps?
Brian

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In article ,
Jim Lesurf wrote:

Up to people who want it to now react by saying they do via the relevant
feedback routes.


Which are?

Sorry I don't know where/how to do this.

Bob.

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Brian Gaff April 16th 17 08:37 AM

BBC FLAC trail this evening
 
No they seem to be saying they want to prove the idea works, end of story.
Maybe its a start up company going to see if providing this is viable and
wanted.


However we are notorious in this country for good ideas that everyone else
makes money from.
Brian

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"Adrian Caspersz" wrote in message
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On 15/04/17 09:20, Brian Gaff wrote:
I don't quite get the point of this, as if you really believe the stuff
on
the site, it seems totally pointless if they have no plans to actually
use
it long term for anything.


A compensation for removing FM.

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Adrian C




Jim Lesurf[_2_] April 16th 17 08:42 AM

BBC FLAC trail this evening
 
If you listened to the R3 flac stream you'd realise how daftly
inappropriate your comments are below.

And its a *test*.

Jim

In article , Brian Gaff
wrote:
Hmm, to me though as I said before, it really needs to be used on the
more mainstream channels and for that to be worth it, the BBC needs to
up their game engineering wise to at least as good as it was in the late
70s and early 80s, not the leave a limiter in charge and go down the pub
system they to use these days. Brian


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Electronics https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~www_pa...o/electron.htm
Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html
Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html



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