Down in Cornwall last week, my other half dragged me along to the
Minack Theatre to see a performance of La Traviata. As it's open air
and has quite a large and very steep auditorium, there's some sound
reinforcement both for singers and for the mini-orchestra, which used
Bose speakers. My word, they're ****poor. Horrible boxy sound. Don't
know why they didn't go for higher quality sound and lower cost and
use Behringer instead. Just reinforced my feeling about Bose, having
heard the PA things that look like black stoves in use at a couple of
gigs. Are they perceived to be good because they're expensive?

--
Mike Fleming

Mike Fleming wrote:

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Down in Cornwall last week, my other half dragged me along to the
Minack Theatre to see a performance of La Traviata. As it's open air
and has quite a large and very steep auditorium, there's some sound
reinforcement both for singers and for the mini-orchestra, which used
Bose speakers. My word, they're ****poor. Horrible boxy sound. Don't
know why they didn't go for higher quality sound and lower cost and
use Behringer instead.



** You are joking ?

Behringer is just cheap Chinese ****.


Just reinforced my feeling about Bose, having
heard the PA things that look like black stoves



** Black stoves ??

More info needed.



in use at a couple of
gigs. Are they perceived to be good because they're expensive?


** When you decide to post sensibly, we may get somewhere.

Cos this post looks just like a stupid troll.



..... Phil

Phil Allison wrote:

Mike Fleming wrote:

Just reinforced my feeling about Bose, having
heard the PA things that look like black stoves

** Black stoves ??

More info needed.

I guess he means something like the ubiquitous 802:

https://pro.bose.com/en_us/products/loudspeakers/point_source_sound_reinforcement/panaray/panaray_802_iv.html

Chris
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Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK


Plant amazing Acers.

Chris J Dixon wrote:

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Mike Fleming wrote:

Just reinforced my feeling about Bose, having
heard the PA things that look like black stoves

** Black stoves ??

More info needed.

I guess he means something like the ubiquitous 802:

https://pro.bose.com/en_us/products/loudspeakers/point_source_sound_reinforcement/panaray/panaray_802_iv.html


** So the 8 x 4inch drivers which you cannot see look like the elements on the top of an electric stove ??

Never heard that one before.



..... Phil

In article ,
Phil Allison writes:

Chris J Dixon wrote:

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Mike Fleming wrote:

Just reinforced my feeling about Bose, having
heard the PA things that look like black stoves

** Black stoves ??

More info needed.

I guess he means something like the ubiquitous 802:

https://pro.bose.com/en_us/products/loudspeakers/point_source_sound_reinforcement/panaray/panaray_802_iv.html


** So the 8 x 4inch drivers which you cannot see look like the elements on the top of an electric stove ??

Never heard that one before.

No, that's not what I was referring to. Have a look at the link I
posted.

--
Mike Fleming

In article ,
Phil Allison writes:

Mike Fleming wrote:

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Down in Cornwall last week, my other half dragged me along to the
Minack Theatre to see a performance of La Traviata. As it's open air
and has quite a large and very steep auditorium, there's some sound
reinforcement both for singers and for the mini-orchestra, which used
Bose speakers. My word, they're ****poor. Horrible boxy sound. Don't
know why they didn't go for higher quality sound and lower cost and
use Behringer instead.



** You are joking ?

Behringer is just cheap Chinese ****.

Bose is just expensive ****.

Just reinforced my feeling about Bose, having
heard the PA things that look like black stoves

** Black stoves ??

More info needed.

http://www.gear4music.com/PA-DJ-and-...PA-System/114B

Sounds boxy and nasty.

in use at a couple of
gigs. Are they perceived to be good because they're expensive?


** When you decide to post sensibly, we may get somewhere.

Cos this post looks just like a stupid troll.

It's not a troll at all. The Bose speakers at the Minack are crap.
Perhaps you should listen to some Bose PA speakers and hear how poor
they are.

--
Mike Fleming

In article ,
Mike Fleming wrote:
It's not a troll at all. The Bose speakers at the Minack are crap.
Perhaps you should listen to some Bose PA speakers and hear how poor
they are.

At one time, many years ago, Bose did actually lead the world in terms of
good quality PA gear. You'd see it in the best nightclubs, etc. But it
relied on using the matching amps which were equalised to the speakers.
But not cheap. Of course since then others have caught up.

I'm surprised their modern stuff is poor in PA terms.

--
*If a thing is worth doing, wouldn't it have been done already?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

maanantai 17. heinäkuuta 2017 2.20.34 UTC+3 Dave Plowman (News) kirjoitti:
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At one time, many years ago, Bose did actually lead the world in terms of
good quality PA gear.

Please substantiate this claim.

Bose are and have always been expensive and mediocre, and compare poorly in comparison tests, which as a former audio professional you surely know.
Have you ready any professional reviews?

Iain

Dave Plowman (Nutcase) wrote:

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At one time, many years ago, Bose did actually lead the world in terms of
good quality PA gear.


** ROTFL - wot utter crap.


You'd see it in the best nightclubs, etc.


** Oh, that is fantastic proof - of absolutely nothing.


But it
relied on using the matching amps which were equalised to the speakers.


** There were no such amplifiers.

Bose sold outboard equalisers to go with their **** boxes - from the first 901s onwards - that could be used with any power amp.

Bose brand amplifiers were rebadged products from other companies cos Bose really never made anything themselves.

Back in the 80s, I did a lot of service work for a hire business that dealt mainly in Bose equipment - like 802s, 802Es plus the horrible 1800 amp series, the PM2 powered mixer and others. The failure rate was high.


But not cheap. Of course since then others have caught up.


** There was none for them to do.



.... Phil

In article ,
Phil Allison wrote:
Dave Plowman (Nutcase) wrote:

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At one time, many years ago, Bose did actually lead the world in terms
of good quality PA gear.


** ROTFL - wot utter crap.

Thanks for your vote of confidence.


You'd see it in the best nightclubs, etc.


** Oh, that is fantastic proof - of absolutely nothing.

And it sounded very good by the PA standards of the day.

Perhaps you'd give your recommendations from the '70s?


But it
relied on using the matching amps which were equalised to the speakers.


** There were no such amplifiers.

Bose sold outboard equalisers to go with their **** boxes - from the
first 901s onwards - that could be used with any power amp.

Ah right. A Mullard 3-3 would have been ideal, then, in your little world.

Bose brand amplifiers were rebadged products from other companies cos
Bose really never made anything themselves.

Back in the 80s, I did a lot of service work for a hire business that
dealt mainly in Bose equipment - like 802s, 802Es plus the horrible
1800 amp series, the PM2 powered mixer and others. The failure rate was
high.

You worked for a company that hired out rubbish? Surely that would be
against your principles?


But not cheap. Of course since then others have caught up.


** There was none for them to do.



... Phil

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*If you ate pasta and anti-pasta, would you still be hungry?

Dave Plowman London SW
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