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Adrian Caspersz October 11th 17 08:20 AM

Crosley's top end record player
 
Just spotted some rebranding going on, they know their limitations...

https://thevinylfactory.com/features...sley-c10-c100/

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Adrian C

Brian Gaff October 11th 17 09:12 AM

Crosley's top end record player
 
I was always amazed how well the old el cheapo Garrard SP25 was, considering
the main bearing seemed to involve a felt washer and the pick up some rough
old knife bearings.
Brian

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Just spotted some rebranding going on, they know their limitations...

https://thevinylfactory.com/features...sley-c10-c100/

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Adrian Caspersz October 11th 17 10:01 AM

Crosley's top end record player
 
On 11/10/17 10:12, Brian Gaff wrote:
I was always amazed how well the old el cheapo Garrard SP25 was, considering
the main bearing seemed to involve a felt washer and the pick up some rough
old knife bearings.


I foolishly gave someone my old Shure M75ED cart which he stuck on one
of those decks, then visited me with a big grin at my mistake.

Currently I'm shopping for a new cart for a Rega P3-24, the stock harsh
sibilant bassless Rega Bias 2 cart I want to get shot of.

The prices of all the half decent ones have recently accelerated into
the hundreds with the exception of the £30 AT95e which I may end up with.

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Woody[_4_] October 11th 17 10:49 AM

Crosley's top end record player
 

"Adrian Caspersz" wrote in message
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On 11/10/17 10:12, Brian Gaff wrote:
I was always amazed how well the old el cheapo Garrard SP25 was,
considering
the main bearing seemed to involve a felt washer and the pick up
some rough
old knife bearings.


I foolishly gave someone my old Shure M75ED cart which he stuck on
one of those decks, then visited me with a big grin at my mistake.

Currently I'm shopping for a new cart for a Rega P3-24, the stock
harsh sibilant bassless Rega Bias 2 cart I want to get shot of.

The prices of all the half decent ones have recently accelerated
into the hundreds with the exception of the £30 AT95e which I may
end up with.


The AT95e has been around for years and years and is well tried and
tested, like the one what I have got.

Also consider looking at Ortofon who are very much still around and
make a good product.

Now if you can tell me where I can get a stylus for my AT30 moving
coil cartridge........


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UnsteadyKen October 11th 17 12:10 PM

Crosley's top end record player
 
In article , lid
says...
"Sound quality was excellent across all frequencies. Upper mids exhibited
clarity, being open and airy for the price. The C-10?s bass was meaty
too while the soundstage was wide and epic in size."

Hang on, I'll just run this through my bull**** filter

My filter found no bull****, just a concise description of how the
turntable sounded to the writer.


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Ken

Johan Helsingius October 11th 17 02:53 PM

Crosley's top end record player
 
On 11-10-17 14:10, UnsteadyKen wrote:

My filter found no bull****, just a concise description of how the
turntable sounded to the writer.


What does "upper mids being airy" mean? Was the "meaty" bass
pork or cow? How large is an epic soundstage? 10 m?


Brian Gaff October 11th 17 03:12 PM

Crosley's top end record player
 
Yes don't get this. I had a Shure and it was fine, I now have to use a
completely automatic deck due to my eyes. I have a used Technics SL 5 fitted
with the old Ortofon Concorde, and it sounds pretty good, but there are
signs of problems as the arm motor sometimes keeps running and the grease on
the mechanism is all rather hard now. done very very well, but I'm loathe to
try to get it fixed as I see no real contenders for anything as good and
new either.
Brian

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On 11/10/17 10:12, Brian Gaff wrote:
I was always amazed how well the old el cheapo Garrard SP25 was,
considering
the main bearing seemed to involve a felt washer and the pick up some
rough
old knife bearings.


I foolishly gave someone my old Shure M75ED cart which he stuck on one of
those decks, then visited me with a big grin at my mistake.

Currently I'm shopping for a new cart for a Rega P3-24, the stock harsh
sibilant bassless Rega Bias 2 cart I want to get shot of.

The prices of all the half decent ones have recently accelerated into the
hundreds with the exception of the £30 AT95e which I may end up with.

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Adrian C




Brian Gaff October 11th 17 03:16 PM

Crosley's top end record player
 
Chuckle they were probably using Sonus single speaker stereo.

Incidentally somebody spotted a real gen or a pig depending on your view in
one of those cash converter second hand shops. A Strathearn turntable in
garish colours for 20 quid.
Those if I recall where the ones with the linear motor crap arm and
strangely unstable speed.
Brian

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On 2017-10-11, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
Just spotted some rebranding going on, they know their limitations...

https://thevinylfactory.com/features...sley-c10-c100/

"Sound quality was excellent across all frequencies. Upper mids exhibited
clarity, being open and airy for the price. The C-10's bass was meaty
too while the soundstage was wide and epic in size."

Hang on, I'll just run this through my bull**** filter;

"No output".

Oh.

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Brian Gaff October 11th 17 03:23 PM

Crosley's top end record player
 
Maybe it just sounded OK to that person.
One thing that has always amazed me is that some shops have crap sound from
crap systems, while others seem to use stuff I'd never heard of and
remarkably get decent sound. I don't know ho Beng speakers are, but
considering they were only 790 quid a pair they sounded pretty good,
especially compared to the average crap bundled with these stereo systems
sold in the multiples these days. I have never seen them since though so
maybe they were bankrupt stock from a decent company I'd never heard of...

I have some Goodmans speakers here from one of their stereo systems which
sounds good on good speakers, but rubbish on the ones they bundle indeed the
speakers sound rubbish on anything!
I wonder how a company can actually make such bad honking flat dodgy
speakers.
Brian

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On 11-10-17 14:10, UnsteadyKen wrote:

My filter found no bull****, just a concise description of how the
turntable sounded to the writer.


What does "upper mids being airy" mean? Was the "meaty" bass
pork or cow? How large is an epic soundstage? 10 m?




UnsteadyKen October 11th 17 04:21 PM

Crosley's top end record player
 
In article ,
says...
What does "upper mids being airy" mean?


According to one source: Airy - Spacious. Open. Instruments sound like
they are surrounded by a large reflective space full of air. Good
reproduction of high frequency reflections.


Was the "meaty" bass
pork or cow? How large is an epic soundstage? 10 m?



Reviewers have been using those and similar terms since the year dot and
I would have thought that anyone interested in audio reproduction would
be familiar with them. Magazines and websites publish glossaries.

There has been talk of standardising reviewing terms by some magazines,
John Atkinson; the editor of Stereophile; who used to post to a couple
of newsgroups, wrote a few years ago about attempting to get his writers
to use the terms listed here
https://www.stereophile.com/reference/50/index.html

It didn't work, the writers hated it, the readers didn't think much of
it either (Negative comments such as reviewing by numbers, removes all
personality etc) and the plan was soon dropped.
















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