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Old November 26th 03, 01:18 PM posted to rec.audio.opinion,uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman
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Arny Krueger wrote:
BTW, a good job of crimping amounts to cold welding with the extra
bonuses of high mechanical strength and inherent disruption of oxide
films or dirt on the connector or the wire. Given my choice, I'd pick a
well-crimped connection over the other two, but I would not worry about
a good job based on the other two methods. Crimping and welding have the
disadvantage of not being as field-repairable as soldering.


The other beauty of crimping is that there is no weakening due to heat
close to the joint - perhaps not that important where the lead is
adequately clamped, though. However, *proper* crimping requires a usually
very expensive special tool, and frequently it is only of use for one
specific connector.

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Old November 26th 03, 03:24 PM posted to rec.audio.opinion,uk.rec.audio
Arny Krueger
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"Dave Plowman" wrote in message
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In article ,
Arny Krueger wrote:
BTW, a good job of crimping amounts to cold welding with the extra
bonuses of high mechanical strength and inherent disruption of oxide
films or dirt on the connector or the wire. Given my choice, I'd pick a
well-crimped connection over the other two, but I would not worry about
a good job based on the other two methods. Crimping and welding have the
disadvantage of not being as field-repairable as soldering.


The other beauty of crimping is that there is no weakening due to heat
close to the joint - perhaps not that important where the lead is
adequately clamped, though. However, *proper* crimping requires a usually
very expensive special tool, and frequently it is only of use for one
specific connector.


Agreed. The best crimpers are heavy, complex, costly, and provide lots of
mechanical advantage.

Here's the crimping tool of my dreams:

http://www.centralofficetools.com/in...D=32&do=detail


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Old November 26th 03, 08:25 PM posted to rec.audio.opinion,uk.rec.audio
James Harris
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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Here's the crimping tool of my dreams:


http://www.centralofficetools.com/in...D=32&do=detail


Sounds like a demented food mixer!
-- J


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Old November 26th 03, 08:25 PM posted to rec.audio.opinion,uk.rec.audio
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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Here's the crimping tool of my dreams:


http://www.centralofficetools.com/in...D=32&do=detail


Sounds like a demented food mixer!
-- J


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Old November 26th 03, 08:57 PM posted to rec.audio.opinion,uk.rec.audio
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Dave Plowman" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Arny Krueger wrote:
BTW, a good job of crimping amounts to cold welding with the extra
bonuses of high mechanical strength and inherent disruption of oxide
films or dirt on the connector or the wire. Given my choice, I'd pick

a
well-crimped connection over the other two, but I would not worry

about
a good job based on the other two methods. Crimping and welding have

the
disadvantage of not being as field-repairable as soldering.


The other beauty of crimping is that there is no weakening due to heat
close to the joint - perhaps not that important where the lead is
adequately clamped, though. However, *proper* crimping requires a

usually
very expensive special tool, and frequently it is only of use for one
specific connector.


Agreed. The best crimpers are heavy, complex, costly, and provide lots of
mechanical advantage.

Here's the crimping tool of my dreams:

http://www.centralofficetools.com/in...D=32&do=detail



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Old November 26th 03, 08:57 PM posted to rec.audio.opinion,uk.rec.audio
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Dave Plowman" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Arny Krueger wrote:
BTW, a good job of crimping amounts to cold welding with the extra
bonuses of high mechanical strength and inherent disruption of oxide
films or dirt on the connector or the wire. Given my choice, I'd pick

a
well-crimped connection over the other two, but I would not worry

about
a good job based on the other two methods. Crimping and welding have

the
disadvantage of not being as field-repairable as soldering.


The other beauty of crimping is that there is no weakening due to heat
close to the joint - perhaps not that important where the lead is
adequately clamped, though. However, *proper* crimping requires a

usually
very expensive special tool, and frequently it is only of use for one
specific connector.


Agreed. The best crimpers are heavy, complex, costly, and provide lots of
mechanical advantage.

Here's the crimping tool of my dreams:

http://www.centralofficetools.com/in...D=32&do=detail



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Old November 26th 03, 03:24 PM posted to rec.audio.opinion,uk.rec.audio
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"Dave Plowman" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Arny Krueger wrote:
BTW, a good job of crimping amounts to cold welding with the extra
bonuses of high mechanical strength and inherent disruption of oxide
films or dirt on the connector or the wire. Given my choice, I'd pick a
well-crimped connection over the other two, but I would not worry about
a good job based on the other two methods. Crimping and welding have the
disadvantage of not being as field-repairable as soldering.


The other beauty of crimping is that there is no weakening due to heat
close to the joint - perhaps not that important where the lead is
adequately clamped, though. However, *proper* crimping requires a usually
very expensive special tool, and frequently it is only of use for one
specific connector.


Agreed. The best crimpers are heavy, complex, costly, and provide lots of
mechanical advantage.

Here's the crimping tool of my dreams:

http://www.centralofficetools.com/in...D=32&do=detail


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Old November 26th 03, 07:01 PM posted to rec.audio.opinion,uk.rec.audio
Joseph Oberlander
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Dave Plowman wrote:

In article ,
Arny Krueger wrote:

BTW, a good job of crimping amounts to cold welding with the extra
bonuses of high mechanical strength and inherent disruption of oxide
films or dirt on the connector or the wire. Given my choice, I'd pick a
well-crimped connection over the other two, but I would not worry about
a good job based on the other two methods. Crimping and welding have the
disadvantage of not being as field-repairable as soldering.



The other beauty of crimping is that there is no weakening due to heat
close to the joint - perhaps not that important where the lead is
adequately clamped, though. However, *proper* crimping requires a usually
very expensive special tool, and frequently it is only of use for one
specific connector.


And a lot of elbow grease.

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Old November 26th 03, 07:48 PM posted to rec.audio.opinion,uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman
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In article .net,
Joseph Oberlander wrote:
However, *proper* crimping requires a usually very expensive special
tool, and frequently it is only of use for one specific connector.


And a lot of elbow grease.


Depends on the crimping tool. Good ones designed for 'production' use will
have a greater mechanical advantage than the normal sort you'd get from an
electronics supplier. And can cost several hundred pounds.

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Dave Plowman London SW 12
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Old November 26th 03, 07:48 PM posted to rec.audio.opinion,uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman
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Posts: 735
Default Source of legitimate interconnects (& weld/solder)

In article .net,
Joseph Oberlander wrote:
However, *proper* crimping requires a usually very expensive special
tool, and frequently it is only of use for one specific connector.


And a lot of elbow grease.


Depends on the crimping tool. Good ones designed for 'production' use will
have a greater mechanical advantage than the normal sort you'd get from an
electronics supplier. And can cost several hundred pounds.

--
*Give me ambiguity or give me something else.

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn
 




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