In article , Keith G
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"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
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1) You seem not to have noticed the word "want" in what I wrote. :-)


Whether you (or anyone else) 'wants' to or not, I stand by my point that
*no-one* gets to hear 'just the music' when listening to an audio
(hifi?) system....

I am not sure how you can know this unless you have listened to every audio
system, playing every recording or broadcast. Since I don't recall you ever
visiting and listening to music via the system(s) I use, I would prefer my
own estimates of their performance to yours. :-)

However I would agree that what matters here is the *perception*. I
regularly get the perception that I am just listening to the music. When
doing so I have no awareness of the 'sound' of amplifiers, etc, in my audio
system(s).


2) The impression I generally get with the audio system I use is that
I am listening to the music, not to the amplifiers. :-)


Well, I'm tempted to say that you would more likely be listening to the
speakers,

See above. :-) However I'd agree that speakers (and the room) tend to
have far more influence on this than the amplifiers. One of the reasons
I've ended up preferring to use ESL's. :-)

but at the risk of shattering an illusion here, I would like
to make it quite clear that the only time I 'listen to my system' is
when I turn the volume all the way up with no source playing in an
'Aristotelian' search for 'thermionic fleas'....!! ;-)

Eg, last night I threw a very 'Techno' record on for a quick check of
how it would sound on my most recent setup (involving my new EL34 amp)
and ended up listening to all 4 sides of a double LP! (I think
'listening to the kit' went out of the window after the first 10
seconds - know what I mean?? :-)

Indeed, similar to my own experience - albeit with quite different types of
music and system... :-)

Slainte,

Jim

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