Keith G wrote:

"Patrick Turner" wrote in message
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Keith G wrote:

When people come hear to hear valves I say nothing either. For a start
I'm
not 'selling' anything, but I don't think valves are for everyone for a
number of different reasons....

......which would be?

In your own words, and in your own time.....

OK, me old rubber glove, seein' as how you arst so nice like, I'll jump you
in over the top of other replies I still need to make....

Practical reasons:

They are a total dip**** whom I wouldn't trust to be safe with a biro...

Unless they wanna use it to write a cheque....



They are on a very tight budget (polite for 'skint') and may not be able
afford the 'overhead'....

But then they ain't going to by a Krell or Mark Levinson either...



They can not even change a fuse....

Almost nobody can these days, and placing a 2A fuse in where its says
200mA isn't uncommon, how the Fire Brigade cheers when ppl do that....



They have very young kids on the loose...

Yeah, the hot tubes cause "ouch" events.

But tube amps were usually covered over in earlier times except Quad II
where is was usual to park the amps under a console out of sight and mind
of the missus, and the kids.

I cover my tubes a bit, but usually kids sense heat and after all a naked tube
is no
worse than a naked light bulb.




They have very inquisitive dogs (cats are OK... :-)...

Animals usually stay clear of tube amps, nothing to smell or eat,
but cats often try to sleep on top of a nice warm box, thus sending
covering over the vent openings for air, and causing overheating and early
failure.
An expensive SS Electroaccompaniet amp that was brought to me some years ago
was ruined by pussy this way.


They *gotta* have a remote (it's not whether the valve amp has got a remote
or not - it's the *type*!!)....

Nothing wrong with a remote, and valve amp makers should fit them
to the preamps or have it as an option.
The Alps black pot with a motor is inexpensive and the IR
control would be very handy.


They live in a tent.

It's raining...

The tent leaks...

Tental dwellers are usually broke.....



They live at the top of a block of flats and the lift's broke...

Housing Commission tenants are usually so "uncultured" that they don't know
what a tube amp is.




They are considering ordering a 'greenhouse heater' from you.... :-)

Hell, in Canberra we get 82 frosts a year, even with global greenhouse warming
that has reduced the average frost
count from 100 per year.
Hi-fi in the greenhouse in July makes good sense, but in the lounge one may as
well
use a tube amp for heating, as use firewood or gas or electricity whatever.



'Sonic' reasons:

They are headbangers that prize ultra-grippy bass and *slam* above all else
and need a *very* loud sound but don't have the budget to buy enough
horses...

Well, Bob Marley, as you know, invented a decent amount of bass in pop music.
before BM, bass was ladled out in parsimonious amounts in pop.

But all the ppl I know like tube amps for the better bass they provide........

Not to many ppl I know use 10 watt amps based on a lone 300B or a pair
of 6BM8 in Ab PP.

Head bangers I have known like tubes when properly introduced to them
with 100 watt class AB UL amps with say a sixpack of 6CA7.
They turn it up and its lovely and creamy, but the bass just is edible,
they are HAPPY. Techno music sounds exceptional.
So they concede tubes can do it.
Then they turn the sound level down because their girl complains..........

But she turns it way high while she does the vacuum cleaning......



Er, nothing else...

That do ya?

Explaining human or huwoman nature is always a messy intellectual process.

Patrick Turner.