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Keith G wrote:

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message


You've got more faith with some of these 'hot under the
collar' types than I have Andy - I take a lot of what
they say with a pinch of salt (large one). Most of 'em
have never heard a valve amp and some of the others have
only heard some old *legacy* struggler at best and seem
to forget what some of the transistor equipment from the
70s could sound like.....

And some of us jsut lately spent three days at a well-known high end
audio
show, listening to bunches and bunches of this crap. Did I say that it
was
crap?

What crap - legacy valve amps

'Legacy' valve amps are currently being manufactured.



Eeyor, you got some catching up to do. I'm taking the **** out of Arny, I
don't consider 'legacy amps' and 70s transistor stuff to be crap - Arny
does, he's on it all the time. I have a pair of great-sounding amps that are
about 40 years old and the 2A3 SET I built a year or two back is based on a
1929 design...!!




or 70s transistor equipment?

70s transistor equipment was last manufactured in then ummm.... errrrr...
70s !


Or are you saying there were a *lot* of new valve amps there? If there
were
it would tell us something - your not liking them means nothing to me,
almost certainly nothing to the manufacturers or even the rest of the
world
probably....?? ;-)

There is essentially no 'new' tube design possible due to the serious
fundamental limitations of the devices. Any significant advances
terminated in
the 50s.


So what? Most modern hanguns are based on designs well over 100 years old -
they only got new versions on old themes, excep the ones that haven't really
changed at all...