On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 21:30:26 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

So what is it with B and D? I'm actually surprised you can bear to
listen to them, they are just horrible.


I don't - they bear virtually no relation to what I hear for real!! (Despite
the Behringer is a million % better than the little lapel mic!!)


Try an experiment. Stick a finger on one ear while you listen - it
turns off some of the brains compensation mechanisms. Does it sound a
little more like the recordings now?

Incidentally, you should never play a recording back in the room it
was made in - every unflatness multiplies, and the whole thing sounds
appalling.

I think I know what at least part of the problem is here - I aimed the mic
at the 'other' speakers and haven't moved throughout all the recordings. I
guess it was therefore well 'off axis' for B & D, although I thought it
probably wouldn't matter much. (How do you 'aim' a mic when the bass is
coming off the rear wall...??)


When you say off axis, do you mean off the mic's axis, or off the
speaker's axis? That mic has a great pattern, so going off axis won't
matter. The speaker is more worrisome. You normally expect to lose
treble when you move off a speaker's axis, but this seems to have
gained the better part of 20dB; that should be impossible.

Anyway, thanks for that - although you most certainly *haven't* confirmed
out the speakers I was hoping you would!!

The setup was as follows:

Pioneer DV-350 DVDP (enables easy track selection by number)
Denon PMA-655R ss amp (50wpc, I believe)
2A3 SET (4 wpc) via 'pre out' from Denon
Lowther PM6Cs in Jericho cabinets
Lowther EX3s in (In)Fidelio cabinets

The tracks were as follows:

A = Denon/PM6C

B = 2A3/EX3

C = 2A3/PM6C

D = Denon/EX3


Well that confirms that the big differences are the speakers, not the
rest of the kit.


(I have listened to them all on cheapo Sennheiser HD 202 cans and don't like
any of them, including the CD direct 'reference' track which sounds like its
got a foghorn/wet fart blowing all the way through it!!)


Well, it was your choice ;-)

Thanks for your efforts, anyway - have a good evening...!! ;-)

Welcome.

d

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