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Old November 11th 06, 03:42 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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"Iain Churches" wrote


Yes indeed. This applies in particular to Readers' Digest boxed sets
(like the
40 sides of Mantovani, which sold in huge numbers!!)

Imagine - 40 sides of Mantovani!!!




I don't have to *imagine* it....

....I've *got* it....!! ;-)


(Can't beat a bit of Mantovani when you're doing the polishing wiv yer
yellow Marigolds on!! :-)



They are troublesome boxes and, even with the EX3s in them, can sound
very hoarse/croaky on speech. Sometimes, if I walk in on them with
Classick FM (DAB) on and an announcement's in progress they can sound
quite 'quacky'!! Then the music starts and that's all gone, thankfully,
but I've got them under close scrute atm and fully expect to have to do
something about them!


Please keep us informed.



Will do. I'm still scunnered by the idea of *filters* and am wondering what
may be done with an equaliser and at what point in the signal chain...??


I am hoping to be able to borrow for evaluation
a pair of Lowther Delphic (2xEX3 in each enclosure, about 170 litres)
in the New year. I am very much looking forward to it.



Right, well I look forward to hearing all about that, come the time. The
worst thing with 'Lowthers' is trying to *evaluate* them - they need using
over a period of time and on a range of material before any meaningful
conclusions can be drawn. Trust me, the 'resin clouds' become very well
defined after a while with them!!

(It has been often said here, quite correctly, that *wow factor* is the one
thing you *don't* need with speakers, but an eventual *my goodness* factor
is definitely to be desired, IMO.... ;-)


(Btw, ignore the usual silly remarks about top and bottom octaves - they
are no more deficient in these areas that most/many other speakers....)

My personal experience is that the LF is a little weak. One would expect
the eight orchestral basses on Prokofiev Op.25 to have a little more
"grunt"
As regards the top end, I agree with you. I do not find them lacking.




The LF issue is an interesting one - the question of 'perspective' comes
into the equation. Basses in an orchestra that has been recorded well enough
to represent the scale and perspective of an 'orchestral' piece should
never, IMO, sound like the sort of bass that would keep a Chav happy in his
hatchback! I'm not of the school that all speakers should do all things
equally well - cabinet design is paramount here and I'm not sure I'd
recommend 'FR horns' to people who wanted the sort of 'in yer face',
percussive bass that will flap yer trousers!

For them that want the clarity and insight of horns but also appreciate the
visceral, low bass of good organ music, there's always the option of a sub -
which is no more or less the case than with most other speakers with cones
of similar (or less) dimension to the not insubstantial 232mm of most
Lowthers!!

Personally, I think I'm baulking at the idea of a sub (I don't see how one
could possibly 'keep up') and, hopefully sometime soon, will be looking at
the idea of 'box enclosures':

http://melhuish.org/audio/box.html

.....as, good a sound as I think it is I'm getting now, I do get the feeling
my 'organ' could do with a little help at times...??

:-)