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Old January 12th 10, 04:42 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Arny Krueger
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Default Is this too mellow?

"Iain Churches" wrote in message

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"Iain Churches" wrote in message


Hmm. In comparisons, brighter, just like louder, is
found by many to be better. One also needs to compare
both with a real clarinet, to decide which sounds more
like the real thing.


The fallacy here is that a clarinet has only one timbre.
In fact, its timbre is highly dependent on its
environment.


The clarinet has three very distinctive timbres
irrespective of "environment" (did you mean acoustic?) They are
associated with the three registers: the first,
"chalumeau" up to Bb4 , the second "clarion" from B4 to C6. The third,
altissimo covers about two octaves above C6.
They all sound totally different, irrespective of
"environment" Much of what Keith recorded is clarion.


Good to see that you were able to study up and correct yourself, Iain.

He achieved a pretty good sound IMO even though he
probably didn't have access to any tutorial info. But he
listens to a lot of good music, and probably hears the
clarinet at home on a daily basis, and so knows how it
really sounds.


A clarinet is made of wood, not glass:-)


Based on the recordings that Iain has brought to us, his
monitoring system is on the bright side.


Note that Iain has no response to this issue.

My *reference
system* on this PC is a pair of ATH-M50 headphones, well
known for their neutrality.


So you evaluate on headphones?


I evaluate using the appropriate reproducer and sonic environment for the
purpose. One key to production is knowing how a short list of common
reproducers and environments translate into a synthetic baseline system.
Headphones are good to have on that list because they tend to be less
dependent on the working environment and are more portable.

Try a pair of B+W 802D loudspeakers, the choice of most
UK recording companies.


If you haven't noticed Iain, I live in the US where most of the studio
monitors aren't B&W.

Again Iain's problem is that he's judging a quick shot
for the purpose of guidance as if it were a finished
recording, and probably doing so on a playback system
that would be too bright for me.


An unkinder man than I might suggest that you are piling
on the HF to compensate for hearing loss.


Iain, my benchmark evaluating my ring loss is whether or not I obtain
results that are amenable to far younger and often female people who are
hearing the same thing that I do. I've always suspected that you prefer the
rolled-off music that you seem to prefer because you can't hear what you are
missing.