Audacity and Echoes

I'm trying to capture streaming audio from Radio 7. I have a Toshiba
Qosmio with sound card. it has Windows XP MCE. I'm using Audacity but
the only input options are Line In / Mixed / Mic. Unfortunately when I
try and record the audio stream this is played through the built-in
speakers, and the sound is then picked up by the in-built mic. Whe
played back the recording has extraneous noises and echoes on it - from
the mic. What I need is for Audacity to take the input direct from the
sound card. But I can't work out how to do this. Please can someone
help. Many thanks - SB.

"SB" wrote in message
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I'm trying to capture streaming audio from Radio 7. I
have a Toshiba Qosmio with sound card. it has Windows XP
MCE. I'm using Audacity but the only input options are
Line In / Mixed / Mic. Unfortunately when I try and
record the audio stream this is played through the
built-in speakers, and the sound is then picked up by the
in-built mic. Whe played back the recording has
extraneous noises and echoes on it - from the mic. What I
need is for Audacity to take the input direct from the
sound card. But I can't work out how to do this. Please
can someone help. Many thanks - SB.

How about an acoustical solution - cover the mic with a wad of modeling clay
or some such?

Hmm - thanks - an idea but .... the mic picks up the sound from the
speakers by conduction through the case. If I mute the mic. nothing is
picked up. I need Audacity to take the audio feed direct from the sound
card. SB.

Arny Krueger wrote:

"SB" wrote in message
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I'm trying to capture streaming audio from Radio 7. I
have a Toshiba Qosmio with sound card. it has Windows XP
MCE. I'm using Audacity but the only input options are
Line In / Mixed / Mic. Unfortunately when I try and
record the audio stream this is played through the
built-in speakers, and the sound is then picked up by the
in-built mic. Whe played back the recording has
extraneous noises and echoes on it - from the mic. What I
need is for Audacity to take the input direct from the
sound card. But I can't work out how to do this. Please
can someone help. Many thanks - SB.

How about an acoustical solution - cover the mic with a wad of modeling clay
or some such?

"SB" wrote in message
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Hmm - thanks - an idea but .... the mic picks up the sound from the
speakers by conduction through the case. If I mute the mic. nothing is
picked up. I need Audacity to take the audio feed direct from the sound
card. SB.


Can't you get to the mic's wires and detach one...??

Not feasible. The sound is not being taken from the sound card - that's
the problem. SB

Keith G wrote:

"SB" wrote in message
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Hmm - thanks - an idea but .... the mic picks up the sound from the
speakers by conduction through the case. If I mute the mic. nothing is
picked up. I need Audacity to take the audio feed direct from the sound
card. SB.


Can't you get to the mic's wires and detach one...??

SB wrote:
I'm trying to capture streaming audio from Radio 7. I have a Toshiba
Qosmio with sound card. it has Windows XP MCE. I'm using Audacity but
the only input options are Line In / Mixed / Mic. Unfortunately when I
try and record the audio stream this is played through the built-in
speakers, and the sound is then picked up by the in-built mic. Whe
played back the recording has extraneous noises and echoes on it -
from the mic. What I need is for Audacity to take the input direct
from the sound card. But I can't work out how to do this. Please can
someone help. Many thanks - SB.

Go into your windows sound panel, click on advanced, options,properties,
Recording and set the microphone slider to zero.

HTH

Rolo

Rolo - thank you for that suggestion. However when I do that I find
that Audacity isn't picking up any audio at all. It needs to capture
the input/output from the sound card not the mic. Turning the mic off
means that nothing is captured at all. I'm begining to think that there
is something wrong with the sound card. Cheers - Chris B.

Rolo Tomassi wrote:

SB wrote:
I'm trying to capture streaming audio from Radio 7. I have a Toshiba
Qosmio with sound card. it has Windows XP MCE. I'm using Audacity but
the only input options are Line In / Mixed / Mic. Unfortunately when I
try and record the audio stream this is played through the built-in
speakers, and the sound is then picked up by the in-built mic. Whe
played back the recording has extraneous noises and echoes on it -
from the mic. What I need is for Audacity to take the input direct
from the sound card. But I can't work out how to do this. Please can
someone help. Many thanks - SB.

Go into your windows sound panel, click on advanced, options,properties,
Recording and set the microphone slider to zero.

HTH

Rolo

CJB wrote:
Rolo - thank you for that suggestion. However when I do that I find
that Audacity isn't picking up any audio at all. It needs to capture
the input/output from the sound card not the mic. Turning the mic off
means that nothing is captured at all. I'm begining to think that there
is something wrong with the sound card. Cheers - Chris B.

Could be right. Not *all* sound cards allow the 'wave' or 'Stereo Mix'
output of the card to be used for recording imput *on the same card*.

You can check this (in XP) by opening the mixer controls, doing options-
properties, and checking which 'volume controls you can show', when you
toggle the radio buttons to 'adjust volume' for recording.

For this dell dimension 3100 I'm using (onboard SigmaTel Audio), I have
the same problem.

Available playback controls are ...

-- Volume Control
-- Wave
-- SW Synth
-- CD Player
-- Input Monitor
-- Mono Mix

& available recording controls are ...

-- Line In
-- Microphone

---------

For another computer based on a Gigabyte GA-8IK1100 rev2.x (onboard
Realtek AC97 Audio)

Available playback controls are ...

-- Volume Control
-- Wave
-- SW Synth
-- Front / Subwoofer / Centre / Rear
-- SPDIF
-- Line In
-- CD Player
-- Microphone
-- Phone Line
-- PC Speaker

& available recording controls are ...

-- Mono Mix
-- Stereo Mix =============
-- SPDIF
-- Line In
-- CD Player
-- Microphone
-- Phone Line

Better luck here .... :-)

Have a google, and check sourceforge. There are plenty of applications
for recording audio from streaming broadcasts _without_ having to do it
via the soundcard.

--
Adrian C

Adrian C wrote:
CJB wrote:
Rolo - thank you for that suggestion. However when I do that I find
that Audacity isn't picking up any audio at all. It needs to capture
the input/output from the sound card not the mic. Turning the mic off
means that nothing is captured at all. I'm begining to think that
there is something wrong with the sound card. Cheers - Chris B.

Could be right. Not *all* sound cards allow the 'wave' or 'Stereo Mix'
output of the card to be used for recording imput *on the same card*.

You can check this (in XP) by opening the mixer controls, doing
options- properties, and checking which 'volume controls you can
show', when you toggle the radio buttons to 'adjust volume' for
recording.
For this dell dimension 3100 I'm using (onboard SigmaTel Audio), I
have the same problem.

Available playback controls are ...

-- Volume Control
-- Wave
-- SW Synth
-- CD Player
-- Input Monitor
-- Mono Mix

& available recording controls are ...

-- Line In
-- Microphone

---------

For another computer based on a Gigabyte GA-8IK1100 rev2.x (onboard
Realtek AC97 Audio)

Available playback controls are ...

-- Volume Control
-- Wave
-- SW Synth
-- Front / Subwoofer / Centre / Rear
-- SPDIF
-- Line In
-- CD Player
-- Microphone
-- Phone Line
-- PC Speaker

& available recording controls are ...

-- Mono Mix
-- Stereo Mix =============
-- SPDIF
-- Line In
-- CD Player
-- Microphone
-- Phone Line

Better luck here .... :-)

Have a google, and check sourceforge. There are plenty of applications
for recording audio from streaming broadcasts _without_ having to do
it via the soundcard.

Total Recorder is excellent but does cost a few $s

Rolo

CJB wrote:
Rolo - thank you for that suggestion. However when I do that I find
that Audacity isn't picking up any audio at all. It needs to capture
the input/output from the sound card not the mic. Turning the mic off
means that nothing is captured at all. I'm begining to think that
there is something wrong with the sound card. Cheers - Chris B.

Rolo Tomassi wrote:

SB wrote:
I'm trying to capture streaming audio from Radio 7. I have a Toshiba
Qosmio with sound card. it has Windows XP MCE. I'm using Audacity
but the only input options are Line In / Mixed / Mic. Unfortunately
when I try and record the audio stream this is played through the
built-in speakers, and the sound is then picked up by the in-built
mic. Whe played back the recording has extraneous noises and echoes
on it - from the mic. What I need is for Audacity to take the input
direct from the sound card. But I can't work out how to do this.
Please can someone help. Many thanks - SB.

Go into your windows sound panel, click on advanced,
options,properties, Recording and set the microphone slider to zero.

HTH

Rolo

You could try turning the PLAYBACK volume of the mic to zero on the mixer,
that way you can still use it as an input but won't hear it out of the
speakers (therefore no feedback/echo).
Rolo