On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:40:30 +0000, Ronnie McKinley
wrote:

In uk.rec.audio Don Pearce wrote:

On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 17:07:46 -0000, "Stimpy"
wrote:

Don Pearce wrote:

As for the Cranberries, that strange vocal thing is called a "Celtic
Yelp" and is produced entirely naturally. I'm not convinced that they
autotune at all - I believe there is actual singing talent involved.

Ms Or'Riordan might *sound* like a strangled cat but she has a genuinely
pure toned singing voice. It's just a shame she chooses to sing such ****e
;-)

Of course that s a cat of an entirely different colour. I have heard
her singing other music live, and you are right - she can really sing.



Don, out of interest what other music have you heard Dolores
O'Riordan-Burton perform? The vast majority (all I think) of what I have
heard, both live (4 concerts) and the recorded work (5 albums) has been
penned by O'Riordan-Burton herself, or else, co-written with fellow band
member Noel Hogan.

As for the "Celtic Yelp" now Sinéad O'Connor yelps, perhaps you are
confusing the two? ;)))

Dolores has that strange upward catch in her voice, which I understand
is called a Celtic Yelp ( Dido has just the tiniest touch of it as
well). As for other stuff, I saw her once in a pub doing all sorts of
stuff, folk, blues and modern and she was simply stunning - bang on
the notes and real feeling.

d

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On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:40:30 +0000, Ronnie McKinley
wrote:

In uk.rec.audio Don Pearce wrote:

On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 17:07:46 -0000, "Stimpy"
wrote:

Don Pearce wrote:

As for the Cranberries, that strange vocal thing is called a "Celtic
Yelp" and is produced entirely naturally. I'm not convinced that they
autotune at all - I believe there is actual singing talent involved.

Ms Or'Riordan might *sound* like a strangled cat but she has a genuinely
pure toned singing voice. It's just a shame she chooses to sing such ****e
;-)

Of course that s a cat of an entirely different colour. I have heard
her singing other music live, and you are right - she can really sing.



Don, out of interest what other music have you heard Dolores
O'Riordan-Burton perform? The vast majority (all I think) of what I have
heard, both live (4 concerts) and the recorded work (5 albums) has been
penned by O'Riordan-Burton herself, or else, co-written with fellow band
member Noel Hogan.

As for the "Celtic Yelp" now Sinéad O'Connor yelps, perhaps you are
confusing the two? ;)))

BTW, I saw Sinéad a few years ago at the fleagh at Finsbury Park and
she really was ****e. Her mike was feeding back all the time and the
stuck up bitch didn't do anything about it - just said "well, that's
rock'n'roll". Well, I've news for her - it isn't. The Pogues were
really disappointing too. The Corrs were pretty...

d

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On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:40:30 +0000, Ronnie McKinley
wrote:

In uk.rec.audio Don Pearce wrote:

On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 17:07:46 -0000, "Stimpy"
wrote:

Don Pearce wrote:

As for the Cranberries, that strange vocal thing is called a "Celtic
Yelp" and is produced entirely naturally. I'm not convinced that they
autotune at all - I believe there is actual singing talent involved.

Ms Or'Riordan might *sound* like a strangled cat but she has a genuinely
pure toned singing voice. It's just a shame she chooses to sing such ****e
;-)

Of course that s a cat of an entirely different colour. I have heard
her singing other music live, and you are right - she can really sing.



Don, out of interest what other music have you heard Dolores
O'Riordan-Burton perform? The vast majority (all I think) of what I have
heard, both live (4 concerts) and the recorded work (5 albums) has been
penned by O'Riordan-Burton herself, or else, co-written with fellow band
member Noel Hogan.

As for the "Celtic Yelp" now Sinéad O'Connor yelps, perhaps you are
confusing the two? ;)))

BTW, I saw Sinéad a few years ago at the fleagh at Finsbury Park and
she really was ****e. Her mike was feeding back all the time and the
stuck up bitch didn't do anything about it - just said "well, that's
rock'n'roll". Well, I've news for her - it isn't. The Pogues were
really disappointing too. The Corrs were pretty...

d

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Hi,

In message , Ian Bell
writes

Cher released a song a year or so ago when the pitch corrector effect was
deliberately overdone. My wife thinks the song was called 'I believe in
love' or something similar.

Your wife may be thinking of 'Believe'. It's been the subject of entire
threads over on rec.audio.pro, and nobody seems to know exactly how that
effect was done. There is a web article about it at
http://www.sospubs.co.uk/sos/feb99/a.../tracks661.htm
but there seems to be a lot of scepticism about whether this is actually
how the effect was achieved.

--
Regards,
Glenn Booth

Hi,

In message , Ian Bell
writes

Cher released a song a year or so ago when the pitch corrector effect was
deliberately overdone. My wife thinks the song was called 'I believe in
love' or something similar.

Your wife may be thinking of 'Believe'. It's been the subject of entire
threads over on rec.audio.pro, and nobody seems to know exactly how that
effect was done. There is a web article about it at
http://www.sospubs.co.uk/sos/feb99/a.../tracks661.htm
but there seems to be a lot of scepticism about whether this is actually
how the effect was achieved.

--
Regards,
Glenn Booth

In message , Stimpy
writes
Don Pearce wrote:

As for the Cranberries, that strange vocal thing is called a "Celtic
Yelp" and is produced entirely naturally. I'm not convinced that they
autotune at all - I believe there is actual singing talent involved.

Ms Or'Riordan might *sound* like a strangled cat but she has a genuinely
pure toned singing voice. It's just a shame she chooses to sing such ****e
;-)



The first album was excellent (IMO of course)
--
Chris Morriss

In message , Stimpy
writes
Don Pearce wrote:

As for the Cranberries, that strange vocal thing is called a "Celtic
Yelp" and is produced entirely naturally. I'm not convinced that they
autotune at all - I believe there is actual singing talent involved.

Ms Or'Riordan might *sound* like a strangled cat but she has a genuinely
pure toned singing voice. It's just a shame she chooses to sing such ****e
;-)



The first album was excellent (IMO of course)
--
Chris Morriss

In message , Don Pearce
writes
On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:40:30 +0000, Ronnie McKinley
wrote:

In uk.rec.audio Don Pearce wrote:

On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 17:07:46 -0000, "Stimpy"
wrote:

Don Pearce wrote:

As for the Cranberries, that strange vocal thing is called a "Celtic
Yelp" and is produced entirely naturally. I'm not convinced that they
autotune at all - I believe there is actual singing talent involved.

Ms Or'Riordan might *sound* like a strangled cat but she has a genuinely
pure toned singing voice. It's just a shame she chooses to sing such ****e
;-)

Of course that s a cat of an entirely different colour. I have heard
her singing other music live, and you are right - she can really sing.



Don, out of interest what other music have you heard Dolores
O'Riordan-Burton perform? The vast majority (all I think) of what I have
heard, both live (4 concerts) and the recorded work (5 albums) has been
penned by O'Riordan-Burton herself, or else, co-written with fellow band
member Noel Hogan.

As for the "Celtic Yelp" now Sinéad O'Connor yelps, perhaps you are
confusing the two? ;)))

BTW, I saw Sinéad a few years ago at the fleagh at Finsbury Park and
she really was ****e. Her mike was feeding back all the time and the
stuck up bitch didn't do anything about it - just said "well, that's
rock'n'roll". Well, I've news for her - it isn't. The Pogues were
really disappointing too. The Corrs were pretty...

d

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The other Sinead (Lohan) is much better.
--
Chris Morriss

In message , Don Pearce
writes
On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 19:40:30 +0000, Ronnie McKinley
wrote:

In uk.rec.audio Don Pearce wrote:

On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 17:07:46 -0000, "Stimpy"
wrote:

Don Pearce wrote:

As for the Cranberries, that strange vocal thing is called a "Celtic
Yelp" and is produced entirely naturally. I'm not convinced that they
autotune at all - I believe there is actual singing talent involved.

Ms Or'Riordan might *sound* like a strangled cat but she has a genuinely
pure toned singing voice. It's just a shame she chooses to sing such ****e
;-)

Of course that s a cat of an entirely different colour. I have heard
her singing other music live, and you are right - she can really sing.



Don, out of interest what other music have you heard Dolores
O'Riordan-Burton perform? The vast majority (all I think) of what I have
heard, both live (4 concerts) and the recorded work (5 albums) has been
penned by O'Riordan-Burton herself, or else, co-written with fellow band
member Noel Hogan.

As for the "Celtic Yelp" now Sinéad O'Connor yelps, perhaps you are
confusing the two? ;)))

BTW, I saw Sinéad a few years ago at the fleagh at Finsbury Park and
she really was ****e. Her mike was feeding back all the time and the
stuck up bitch didn't do anything about it - just said "well, that's
rock'n'roll". Well, I've news for her - it isn't. The Pogues were
really disappointing too. The Corrs were pretty...

d

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The other Sinead (Lohan) is much better.
--
Chris Morriss

Don Pearce wrote:


As for the Cranberries, that strange vocal thing is called a "Celtic
Yelp" and is produced entirely naturally.


( Dido has just the tiniest touch of it as well).


It was a Dido song on the wireless which prompted me to ask the question
in the first place. It wasn't a Cranberries effect but seemed more
consistent in that the note started wrong and quickly corrected itself.
Now if only they could take some Sinatra tapes and give him a
little bit of vocal range. And would those Sid Barrett solo albums lose
their charm if remastered and the vocal track adjusted so that he sang
in tune?

--
Roger.