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Added a DAC to a cheap CD player - and got a result



 
 
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Old December 29th 03, 11:05 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Nick J.
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Default Added a DAC to a cheap CD player - and got a result

Keith G wrote:

"Ian Molton" wrote in message
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theres a switch labelled 'phase'. Wonder what that does?


Inverts the phase which can sometimes improve the sound. (Buggered if I know
how or why though......)


I understand that S/P-DIF spec allows for data to be sent "normal" or
"inverted". I have no idea why, but some of my equipment can send the
S/P-DIF info either inverted or normal. The other gear seems to
auto-switch in order to deal with it.

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Old December 30th 03, 12:36 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Kalman Rubinson
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Default Added a DAC to a cheap CD player - and got a result

On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 00:05:35 +0000, "Nick J."
wrote:

Keith G wrote:

"Ian Molton" wrote in message
...

theres a switch labelled 'phase'. Wonder what that does?


Inverts the phase which can sometimes improve the sound. (Buggered if I know
how or why though......)


I understand that S/P-DIF spec allows for data to be sent "normal" or
"inverted". I have no idea why, but some of my equipment can send the
S/P-DIF info either inverted or normal. The other gear seems to
auto-switch in order to deal with it.


There is no way to change the phase of the S/PDIF stream itself since
it is biphase encoded. One can invert the audio phase of the
datastream extracted from it with a simple inversion.

Kal

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Old December 30th 03, 12:36 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Kalman Rubinson
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Default Added a DAC to a cheap CD player - and got a result

On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 00:05:35 +0000, "Nick J."
wrote:

Keith G wrote:

"Ian Molton" wrote in message
...

theres a switch labelled 'phase'. Wonder what that does?


Inverts the phase which can sometimes improve the sound. (Buggered if I know
how or why though......)


I understand that S/P-DIF spec allows for data to be sent "normal" or
"inverted". I have no idea why, but some of my equipment can send the
S/P-DIF info either inverted or normal. The other gear seems to
auto-switch in order to deal with it.


There is no way to change the phase of the S/PDIF stream itself since
it is biphase encoded. One can invert the audio phase of the
datastream extracted from it with a simple inversion.

Kal

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Old December 30th 03, 01:14 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Ian Molton
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Default Added a DAC to a cheap CD player - and got a result

On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 20:36:14 -0500
Kalman Rubinson wrote:

There is no way to change the phase of the S/PDIF stream itself since
it is biphase encoded. One can invert the audio phase of the
datastream extracted from it with a simple inversion.


To go back to the original topic a bit...

I now have the DAC feeding a *slightly* better amp than my old Rotel. I say slightly as the only reason its better is that the Rotel has buggered caps and something else wrong with it.

Its now feeding an AIWA A25 (best part of 30 years old at a guess) and it actually sounds pretty good (although the A25 is *clearly* having a hard time driving my Radfords...

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Old December 30th 03, 01:14 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Ian Molton
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Default Added a DAC to a cheap CD player - and got a result

On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 20:36:14 -0500
Kalman Rubinson wrote:

There is no way to change the phase of the S/PDIF stream itself since
it is biphase encoded. One can invert the audio phase of the
datastream extracted from it with a simple inversion.


To go back to the original topic a bit...

I now have the DAC feeding a *slightly* better amp than my old Rotel. I say slightly as the only reason its better is that the Rotel has buggered caps and something else wrong with it.

Its now feeding an AIWA A25 (best part of 30 years old at a guess) and it actually sounds pretty good (although the A25 is *clearly* having a hard time driving my Radfords...

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Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are tasty and good with ketchup.
 




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