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Are Arcam CD players really of poor build quality?



 
 
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Old January 18th 04, 07:01 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Terry
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Default Are Arcam CD players really of poor build quality?


"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
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In article , "Mike Cawood,
HND BIT" wrote:


Double sided sticky has been used for many years to hold things
together, it's cheap and (usually) permanent. Mike.


I tend to agree. The lables on my Spendor LS3/5A's are held on with double
sided tape. Mind you, I only know this as they fell off and I had to stick
them back on again... ;-

Slainte,

Jim


Over a period of time 'double sided sticky' will dry out
and lose its adhesian. I would not like to find a high
quality piece of audio equipment held together with this.

It is cheap and shoddy.

Regards


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Old January 18th 04, 11:38 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"Terry" wrote in message ...
Over a period of time 'double sided sticky' will dry out
and lose its adhesian. I would not like to find a high
quality piece of audio equipment held together with this.

It is cheap and shoddy.

Regards


Not all industrial adhesives are the same. Performance and quality
vary according to design and cost. Adhesives are often used where they
provide better performance than traditional fixing methods.

Can't comment specifically on Arcams use of adhesive tape, but if it
was chosen with the care they apply to the rest of their design then I
think it will do the job well.

Regards

Chris
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Old January 18th 04, 12:10 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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"Chris Frost remove NOSPAM" wrote in message
m...
"Terry" wrote in message

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Over a period of time 'double sided sticky' will dry out
and lose its adhesian. I would not like to find a high
quality piece of audio equipment held together with this.

It is cheap and shoddy.

Regards


Not all industrial adhesives are the same. Performance and quality
vary according to design and cost. Adhesives are often used where they
provide better performance than traditional fixing methods.

Can't comment specifically on Arcams use of adhesive tape, but if it
was chosen with the care they apply to the rest of their design then I
think it will do the job well.




Yes, much as I don't like the idea of 'double-sided sticky' tape myself, it
simply isn't reasonable to dismiss the use of such adhesives in industrial
(or construction) situations - for instance, most modern cars rely on
adhesives in dozens of different places, starting with the 'rear view
mirror' which is usually just stuck to the windscreen and they will subject
the 'stuck' components to far more stress and heat than a simple bit of hifi
kit........




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Old January 18th 04, 01:35 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Tim Hobbs
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Yes, much as I don't like the idea of 'double-sided sticky' tape myself, it
simply isn't reasonable to dismiss the use of such adhesives in industrial
(or construction) situations - for instance, most modern cars rely on
adhesives in dozens of different places, starting with the 'rear view
mirror' which is usually just stuck to the windscreen and they will subject
the 'stuck' components to far more stress and heat than a simple bit of hifi
kit........


I think the OP would be rather horrified to see the extent to which
adhesives are used in the aerospace and automotive industries.

Also double-sided tape is easily available in repair shops (who may
one day need to get that front panel off), leaves no visible screws at
the front, is easily applied by machines, has fewer Health and Safety
issues than liquid adhesives and is easier to rework if there is a
quality issue.

The other method is to use a snap-fit connector on the front panel,
but once these break (which IME they always do) the front panel is
buggered. I've broken lots of computers like this. Double-sided
sticky tape usually sorts it though!


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Old January 18th 04, 04:00 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Laurence Payne
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Default Are Arcam CD players really of poor build quality?

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 14:35:17 +0000, Tim Hobbs
wrote:

I think the OP would be rather horrified to see the extent to which
adhesives are used in the aerospace and automotive industries.



True. My recent windscreen replacement was a glue job. And I was
warned not to drive too far or fast without the glass fitted - it's a
necessary and integral part of the body.
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Old January 19th 04, 06:51 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Terry
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Default Are Arcam CD players really of poor build quality?


"Chris Frost remove NOSPAM" wrote in message
m...
"Terry" wrote in message

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Over a period of time 'double sided sticky' will dry out
and lose its adhesian. I would not like to find a high
quality piece of audio equipment held together with this.

It is cheap and shoddy.

Regards


Not all industrial adhesives are the same. Performance and quality
vary according to design and cost. Adhesives are often used where they
provide better performance than traditional fixing methods.

Can't comment specifically on Arcams use of adhesive tape, but if it
was chosen with the care they apply to the rest of their design then I
think it will do the job well.

Regards

Chris


What standard of adhesive tape do you think
the typical service dept will use. ?

Regards


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Old January 19th 04, 05:57 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Laurence Payne
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Default Are Arcam CD players really of poor build quality?

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 07:51:17 -0000, "Terry"
wrote:

What standard of adhesive tape do you think
the typical service dept will use. ?


For sticking a front-plate on, anything handy I expect. Because it
doesn't really matter a damn whether it falls off :-)

For repairing a component where a specialised adhesive is indicated,
they'd use the right one. Just like windscreen replacers, plastic
window installers etc, etc. do.
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Old January 20th 04, 11:18 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
David
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I love my ARCAM DV88 DVD player. Very solid build quality and the
sound from CDs, stunning.


I just bought one over Xmas. I love it too, but its so sloowwww to
operate and the remote is crap and very directional.
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Old January 20th 04, 11:41 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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David wrote:
I love my ARCAM DV88 DVD player. Very solid build quality and the
sound from CDs, stunning.


I just bought one over Xmas. I love it too, but its so sloowwww to
operate and the remote is crap and very directional.


Blimey, you need to try a Roksan remote - mine has a limp, uses a walking
stick and needs glasses :-)


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