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"Ian Molton" wrote in message

On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 05:39:34 -0500
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

Typically, if you try to run any Athlon or Duron chip without a
heatsink, or with the heatsink a little cocked, or with too thick of
a layer of thermal compound, or thermal compound with particles in
it that prevents complete intimate contact between the heatsink and
the chip, the chip is history in about a minute.

Not on any recent board...

Sure, on very recent boards.

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On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 20:27:38 -0500
"Arny Krueger" wrote:

Not on any recent board...

Sure, on very recent boards.

Where 'very' extends back about 2.5-3 years...

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"Glenn Booth" wrote in message

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Yeah. Reputedly, an Athlon would melt :-)

Not "reputedly", but "for sure".

Indeed. tomshardware.com (not a site I pay much attention to usually,
as I think they do way too much grandstanding) made some videos of
Athlon processors self-destructing due to lack of proper cooling. The
evidence is at:

http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/2001...tvideo-05.html.

You can almost smell the smoke :-)

Things have probably changed since this happened - I would guess that
AMD and the motherboard manufacturers are now doing more to properly
implement thermal controls.

I wish.

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"Arny Krueger" wrote


I've built machines with up to 8 hard drives in them, and the
machines have lived long and happy lives. Yes, I paid lots of
attention to air flow around the drives.

Noise?

CPU and power supply cooling are IME larger issues.

Acceptable in an audio or HT environment?

If push comes to shove, just put the PC in another room.


Not ideal.....



I have to say the imminence of 8.5 Gb dual-layer blank media and
burners (+ in March, - later this year) has got me thinking that it
might pay to hold off for the moment. The growth rate of my 'stored
material' (600 Gig since Christmas and rising) on 4.7 Gig disks will
make a nonsense of a single Tb array soon enough, double the present
disk size and that's gonna happen in half the time...

4.7 GB media gets it for me, and I normally work in 24 bit wave files...

Perhaps my current 'mass data storage' arrangement:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keit...ow/storage.jpg

"page not found"



The link's good - they musta been polishing the floors at Pipex Central when
you called.

(No biggie - just a fun pic of about 500 Gig's worth of 'alternatative data
storage' (shoebox).........)

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"Keith G" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote


I've built machines with up to 8 hard drives in them, and the
machines have lived long and happy lives. Yes, I paid lots of
attention to air flow around the drives.

Noise?

CPU and power supply cooling are IME larger issues.

Acceptable in an audio or HT environment?

If push comes to shove, just put the PC in another room.


Not ideal.....



I have to say the imminence of 8.5 Gb dual-layer blank media and
burners (+ in March, - later this year) has got me thinking that it
might pay to hold off for the moment. The growth rate of my 'stored
material' (600 Gig since Christmas and rising) on 4.7 Gig disks will
make a nonsense of a single Tb array soon enough, double the present
disk size and that's gonna happen in half the time...

4.7 GB media gets it for me, and I normally work in 24 bit wave
files...

Perhaps my current 'mass data storage' arrangement:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keit...ow/storage.jpg

"page not found"



The link's good - they musta been polishing the floors at Pipex
Central when you called.

The pix is baaack.


(No biggie - just a fun pic of about 500 Gig's worth of
'alternatative data storage' (shoebox).........)

At 500 megs per CD, 500 GB would be 1,000 CDs. Your shoe box seems to be a
several hundred discs short of claimed capacity.

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"Arny Krueger" wrote


The link's good - they musta been polishing the floors at Pipex
Central when you called.

The pix is baaack.


(No biggie - just a fun pic of about 500 Gig's worth of
'alternatative data storage' (shoebox).........)

At 500 megs per CD, 500 GB would be 1,000 CDs. Your shoe box seems to be a
several hundred discs short of claimed capacity.



They ain't CDs....... ;-)

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"Kurt Hamster" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:09:34 -0000, Keith G used
to say...


"Arny Krueger" wrote


The link's good - they musta been polishing the floors at Pipex
Central when you called.

The pix is baaack.


(No biggie - just a fun pic of about 500 Gig's worth of
'alternatative data storage' (shoebox).........)

At 500 megs per CD, 500 GB would be 1,000 CDs. Your shoe box seems to
be a
several hundred discs short of claimed capacity.



They ain't CDs....... ;-)

If ever there was an impression of shooting an own goal that was it :)



Funny you should say that - given the nature of the 'stored material' it
occurred to me I could be doing the very same thing and have pulled the
pic.......

:-)