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clarity vs musicality



 
 
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Old May 26th 04, 10:41 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Richard Markham
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I've just upgraded from an old cyrus 1 and celestion dl 8 speakers to
some monitor audio silver 7's and an exposure XXV amp.

I have a Pink triangle deck which I am now running through a Gram Amp 2.

It's fascinating to listen to all my vinyl again and hear so much more
detail. So much more detail that one can clearly hear duff recordings
revealed for what they are... It makes some records quite annoying to
listen to.

I would guess that this effect gets worse the better the system is at
extracting the information from the recording medium.

I played a flamenco guitar recording made by Philips in 1966 and the
sound is amazing because it's so unprocessed and clear.

So I guess that the more you pay for your hi-fi the less records/cd's
you end up playing....?



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Old May 27th 04, 08:06 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Jim Lesurf
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In article , Richard Markham
wrote:
I've just upgraded from an old cyrus 1 and celestion dl 8 speakers to
some monitor audio silver 7's and an exposure XXV amp.


I have a Pink triangle deck which I am now running through a Gram Amp 2.


It's fascinating to listen to all my vinyl again and hear so much more
detail. So much more detail that one can clearly hear duff recordings
revealed for what they are... It makes some records quite annoying to
listen to.


I would guess that this effect gets worse the better the system is at
extracting the information from the recording medium.


I suspect that depends upon the recordings and what may annoy you... :-)

I played a flamenco guitar recording made by Philips in 1966 and the
sound is amazing because it's so unprocessed and clear.


So I guess that the more you pay for your hi-fi the less records/cd's
you end up playing....?


My experience is slightly different. It is that a 'better'[1] audio system
does two things:

1) It does tend to expose some kinds of poor recording. e.g. artificial or
unsatisfactory stereo image. This can make some recordings sound worse.

2) Makes it easier the distinguish the musical performance from recording
limitiations.

So, with some recordings I find that as I moved to 'better' systems the use
of pan potting, close mics, added artificial reverb, compression, etc, all
become more obvious and sometimes more irritating.

However with other I found that the music became easier to hear and things
like background noise (hiss) less noticable. Overall, my own preference is
to accept that some good performances were poorly recorded, and the employ
the audio system to help me to enjoy the music 'past' the limitations of
the recording.

So, swings and roundabouts, I'd say. :-)

[1] 'Better' here simply means 'better in my judgement in terms of allowing
me to hear what it on the recording more clearly'.

Slainte,

Jim

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Old May 30th 04, 12:29 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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"Richard Markham" wrote in message
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I've just upgraded from an old cyrus 1 and celestion dl 8 speakers to
some monitor audio silver 7's and an exposure XXV amp.

I have a Pink triangle deck which I am now running through a Gram Amp 2.

It's fascinating to listen to all my vinyl again and hear so much more
detail. So much more detail that one can clearly hear duff recordings
revealed for what they are... It makes some records quite annoying to
listen to.

I would guess that this effect gets worse the better the system is at
extracting the information from the recording medium.

I played a flamenco guitar recording made by Philips in 1966 and the
sound is amazing because it's so unprocessed and clear.




Keep yer voice down Richard - there's enough competition for 60's First
Pressings already!

;-)





 




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