Where can I( go to in Norfolk to hear a realy high end vinyl set up. I
am taking five to ten grands worth?

Ian

On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 20:28:24 +0100, ruffrecords
wrote:

Where can I( go to in Norfolk to hear a realy high end vinyl set up. I
am taking five to ten grands worth?

Ian

Taking five to ten grands worth of what? How do you know these Norfolk
chaps will barter? Wouldn't it be better to take the cash or a cheque?

And I've heard rumours that you can hear really high-end vinyl in
Suffolk. You can hear every crackle, scratch and dust speck like you
were actually there in the crackle, scratch and dust speck factory.
Feel like living dangerously?

d
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

Don Pearce wrote:
On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 20:28:24 +0100, ruffrecords
wrote:


Where can I( go to in Norfolk to hear a realy high end vinyl set up. I
am taking five to ten grands worth?

Ian


Taking five to ten grands worth of what? How do you know these Norfolk
chaps will barter?

OOh no, in Nar**** we barters first and pays cash second. I got a foo
tun of good manoor to trade.

Wouldn't it be better to take the cash or a cheque?

And I've heard rumours that you can hear really high-end vinyl in
Suffolk. You can hear every crackle, scratch and dust speck like you
were actually there in the crackle, scratch and dust speck factory.
Feel like living dangerously?

Already am. Having a disagreement with a guy on another group who
reckons hi end vinyl sounds way better - I mean obviously better than
CD. He suggested I should visit a hi-end hi-fi shop and listen to 5
to 10 grands worth of vinyl kit to hear waht I have been missing, so
that's waht I intend to do.

Ian

In article , ruffrecords
wrote:


Already am. Having a disagreement with a guy on another group who
reckons hi end vinyl sounds way better - I mean obviously better than
CD. He suggested I should visit a hi-end hi-fi shop and listen to 5 to
10 grands worth of vinyl kit to hear waht I have been missing, so
that's waht I intend to do.

If he knows this, he presumably knows what system he heard, and where he
heard it. So I'd say it was up to him to say where you can listen to this
system he rates so highly. OTOH If his opinion is just a generalisation,
and he can't give you an example you can actually listen to, then judge his
opinion on that basis. :-)

I'm also a bit puzzled by the idea that what is needed is 5-10 grand of
'vinyl kit'. Does this include the power amps and speakers and listening
room being specifically 'vinyl kit', or is he just talking about the
cartridge, arm, deck, and RIAA preamp?

Must admit I am also somewhat doubtful of recommending kit (apparently)
solely on the basis that it costs a lot of money...

Slainte,

Jim

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Don Pearce wrote:
On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 20:28:24 +0100, ruffrecords
wrote:


Where can I( go to in Norfolk to hear a realy high end vinyl set up. I
am taking five to ten grands worth?

Ian


Taking five to ten grands worth of what? How do you know these Norfolk
chaps will barter?

OOh no, in Nar**** we barters first and pays cash second. I got a foo
tun of good manoor to trade.

Wouldn't it be better to take the cash or a cheque?

And I've heard rumours that you can hear really high-end vinyl in
Suffolk. You can hear every crackle, scratch and dust speck like you
were actually there in the crackle, scratch and dust speck factory.
Feel like living dangerously?

Already am. Having a disagreement with a guy on another group who
reckons hi end vinyl sounds way better - I mean obviously better than
CD. He suggested I should visit a hi-end hi-fi shop and listen to 5
to 10 grands worth of vinyl kit to hear waht I have been missing, so
that's waht I intend to do.

Ian

Is it your intention to purchase the setup if you like it?

Jim Lesurf wrote:
In article , ruffrecords
wrote:


Already am. Having a disagreement with a guy on another group who
reckons hi end vinyl sounds way better - I mean obviously better than
CD. He suggested I should visit a hi-end hi-fi shop and listen to 5
to 10 grands worth of vinyl kit to hear waht I have been missing, so
that's waht I intend to do.

If he knows this, he presumably knows what system he heard, and where
he heard it. So I'd say it was up to him to say where you can listen
to this system he rates so highly. OTOH If his opinion is just a
generalisation, and he can't give you an example you can actually
listen to, then judge his opinion on that basis. :-)


Before you even get to this point you probably need to narrow down
exactly what he means by 'better'.

Neil

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 10:05:55 +0100, Jim Lesurf
wrote:

In article , ruffrecords
wrote:

Already am. Having a disagreement with a guy on another group who
reckons hi end vinyl sounds way better - I mean obviously better than
CD. He suggested I should visit a hi-end hi-fi shop and listen to 5 to
10 grands worth of vinyl kit to hear waht I have been missing, so
that's waht I intend to do.

If he knows this, he presumably knows what system he heard, and where he
heard it. So I'd say it was up to him to say where you can listen to this
system he rates so highly. OTOH If his opinion is just a generalisation,
and he can't give you an example you can actually listen to, then judge his
opinion on that basis. :-)

I'm also a bit puzzled by the idea that what is needed is 5-10 grand of
'vinyl kit'. Does this include the power amps and speakers and listening
room being specifically 'vinyl kit', or is he just talking about the
cartridge, arm, deck, and RIAA preamp?

Must admit I am also somewhat doubtful of recommending kit (apparently)
solely on the basis that it costs a lot of money...

Indeed so. I have about 10 grand of 'vinyl kit' if you include the amp
and speakers, but only about £1500 up to the preamp inputs. OTOH, it
still doesn't sound as good as CD............. :-)

For the OP's information, it's on my page at
http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/
and he's welcome to drop in any time for a listen, in much better
surroundings than he'll find in a hi-fi shop!
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 16:51:49 +0100, "Neil Jones"
wrote:

Jim Lesurf wrote:
In article , ruffrecords
wrote:


Already am. Having a disagreement with a guy on another group who
reckons hi end vinyl sounds way better - I mean obviously better than
CD. He suggested I should visit a hi-end hi-fi shop and listen to 5
to 10 grands worth of vinyl kit to hear waht I have been missing, so
that's waht I intend to do.

If he knows this, he presumably knows what system he heard, and where
he heard it. So I'd say it was up to him to say where you can listen
to this system he rates so highly. OTOH If his opinion is just a
generalisation, and he can't give you an example you can actually
listen to, then judge his opinion on that basis. :-)


Before you even get to this point you probably need to narrow down
exactly what he means by 'better'.

Oh, y'know, infinite bandwidth, infinite resolution, no 'stair steps',
more 'ambience', more 'inner detail', the usual stuff......... :-)
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

"ruffrecords" wrote in message


Already am. Having a disagreement with a guy on another group who
reckons hi end vinyl sounds way better - I mean obviously better than
CD.

This is a well-known scam. You're supposed to believe him and pay 1,000's
and 1,000's on a fruitless search for the holy grail of a vinyl playback
system that actually sounds better than the audio section of a good $50US
DVD player.

He suggested I should visit a hi-end hi-fi shop and listen to 5
to 10 grands worth of vinyl kit to hear what I have been missing, so
that's what I intend to do.

Only if your time is not worth very much to you...

In article ,
ruffrecords wrote:
Having a disagreement with a guy on another group who
reckons hi end vinyl sounds way better - I mean obviously better than
CD. He suggested I should visit a hi-end hi-fi shop and listen to 5
to 10 grands worth of vinyl kit to hear waht I have been missing, so
that's waht I intend to do.

Standard argument from someone who doesn't know what they're on about -
find a more expensive xxxx

No vinyl system can ever sound as good as CD - as a principle. Certain
records may sound 'better' than certain CDs, but that's for different
reasons.

There's an easy test for this. Transfer - using the best possible
equipment - an LP to CD. Ask the golden eared boys to tell which is which
in a blind test. They won't be able to. And I'll put serious money up for
a bet if someone wants to try. But they'll have to equal it.

Do the same in reverse. Much more difficult, of course. But it can be
done. Anyone with quarter decent hearing will tell the difference.

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