Where can I( go to in Norfolk to hear a realy high end vinyl set up. I
am taking five to ten grands worth?

Ian

On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 20:28:24 +0100, ruffrecords
wrote:

Where can I( go to in Norfolk to hear a realy high end vinyl set up. I
am taking five to ten grands worth?

Ian

Taking five to ten grands worth of what? How do you know these Norfolk
chaps will barter? Wouldn't it be better to take the cash or a cheque?

And I've heard rumours that you can hear really high-end vinyl in
Suffolk. You can hear every crackle, scratch and dust speck like you
were actually there in the crackle, scratch and dust speck factory.
Feel like living dangerously?

d
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

Don Pearce wrote:
On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 20:28:24 +0100, ruffrecords
wrote:


Where can I( go to in Norfolk to hear a realy high end vinyl set up. I
am taking five to ten grands worth?

Ian


Taking five to ten grands worth of what? How do you know these Norfolk
chaps will barter?

OOh no, in Nar**** we barters first and pays cash second. I got a foo
tun of good manoor to trade.

Wouldn't it be better to take the cash or a cheque?

And I've heard rumours that you can hear really high-end vinyl in
Suffolk. You can hear every crackle, scratch and dust speck like you
were actually there in the crackle, scratch and dust speck factory.
Feel like living dangerously?

Already am. Having a disagreement with a guy on another group who
reckons hi end vinyl sounds way better - I mean obviously better than
CD. He suggested I should visit a hi-end hi-fi shop and listen to 5
to 10 grands worth of vinyl kit to hear waht I have been missing, so
that's waht I intend to do.

Ian

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Don Pearce wrote:
On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 20:28:24 +0100, ruffrecords
wrote:


Where can I( go to in Norfolk to hear a realy high end vinyl set up. I
am taking five to ten grands worth?

Ian


Taking five to ten grands worth of what? How do you know these Norfolk
chaps will barter?

OOh no, in Nar**** we barters first and pays cash second. I got a foo
tun of good manoor to trade.

Wouldn't it be better to take the cash or a cheque?

And I've heard rumours that you can hear really high-end vinyl in
Suffolk. You can hear every crackle, scratch and dust speck like you
were actually there in the crackle, scratch and dust speck factory.
Feel like living dangerously?

Already am. Having a disagreement with a guy on another group who
reckons hi end vinyl sounds way better - I mean obviously better than
CD. He suggested I should visit a hi-end hi-fi shop and listen to 5
to 10 grands worth of vinyl kit to hear waht I have been missing, so
that's waht I intend to do.

Ian

Is it your intention to purchase the setup if you like it?

JustMe wrote:
"ruffrecords" wrote in message
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Don Pearce wrote:

On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 20:28:24 +0100, ruffrecords
wrote:



Where can I( go to in Norfolk to hear a realy high end vinyl set up. I
am taking five to ten grands worth?

Ian


Taking five to ten grands worth of what? How do you know these Norfolk
chaps will barter?

OOh no, in Nar**** we barters first and pays cash second. I got a foo
tun of good manoor to trade.

Wouldn't it be better to take the cash or a cheque?

And I've heard rumours that you can hear really high-end vinyl in
Suffolk. You can hear every crackle, scratch and dust speck like you
were actually there in the crackle, scratch and dust speck factory.
Feel like living dangerously?

Already am. Having a disagreement with a guy on another group who
reckons hi end vinyl sounds way better - I mean obviously better than
CD. He suggested I should visit a hi-end hi-fi shop and listen to 5
to 10 grands worth of vinyl kit to hear waht I have been missing, so
that's waht I intend to do.

Ian


Is it your intention to purchase the setup if you like it?



I don't know. One problem is that apparently you need really good
vinyl, preferably direct to disk stuff. This is both rare and
unlikely to come anywhere near covering the breadth of my musical
tastes. That said I have an open mind, and a big enough cheque book,
so if it really is that good I might just well buy one.

Ian

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 21:50:07 +0100, ruffrecords
wrote:

JustMe wrote:

Is it your intention to purchase the setup if you like it?

I don't know. One problem is that apparently you need really good
vinyl, preferably direct to disk stuff. This is both rare and
unlikely to come anywhere near covering the breadth of my musical
tastes. That said I have an open mind, and a big enough cheque book,
so if it really is that good I might just well buy one.

I suggest that the SME 10 with the dedicated arm and say a Lyra Lydian
cartridge, is as good as anything you'll hear.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

In article , ruffrecords
wrote:


Already am. Having a disagreement with a guy on another group who
reckons hi end vinyl sounds way better - I mean obviously better than
CD. He suggested I should visit a hi-end hi-fi shop and listen to 5 to
10 grands worth of vinyl kit to hear waht I have been missing, so
that's waht I intend to do.

If he knows this, he presumably knows what system he heard, and where he
heard it. So I'd say it was up to him to say where you can listen to this
system he rates so highly. OTOH If his opinion is just a generalisation,
and he can't give you an example you can actually listen to, then judge his
opinion on that basis. :-)

I'm also a bit puzzled by the idea that what is needed is 5-10 grand of
'vinyl kit'. Does this include the power amps and speakers and listening
room being specifically 'vinyl kit', or is he just talking about the
cartridge, arm, deck, and RIAA preamp?

Must admit I am also somewhat doubtful of recommending kit (apparently)
solely on the basis that it costs a lot of money...

Slainte,

Jim

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Jim Lesurf wrote:
In article , ruffrecords
wrote:


Already am. Having a disagreement with a guy on another group who
reckons hi end vinyl sounds way better - I mean obviously better than
CD. He suggested I should visit a hi-end hi-fi shop and listen to 5
to 10 grands worth of vinyl kit to hear waht I have been missing, so
that's waht I intend to do.

If he knows this, he presumably knows what system he heard, and where
he heard it. So I'd say it was up to him to say where you can listen
to this system he rates so highly. OTOH If his opinion is just a
generalisation, and he can't give you an example you can actually
listen to, then judge his opinion on that basis. :-)


Before you even get to this point you probably need to narrow down
exactly what he means by 'better'.

Neil

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 16:51:49 +0100, "Neil Jones"
wrote:

Jim Lesurf wrote:
In article , ruffrecords
wrote:


Already am. Having a disagreement with a guy on another group who
reckons hi end vinyl sounds way better - I mean obviously better than
CD. He suggested I should visit a hi-end hi-fi shop and listen to 5
to 10 grands worth of vinyl kit to hear waht I have been missing, so
that's waht I intend to do.

If he knows this, he presumably knows what system he heard, and where
he heard it. So I'd say it was up to him to say where you can listen
to this system he rates so highly. OTOH If his opinion is just a
generalisation, and he can't give you an example you can actually
listen to, then judge his opinion on that basis. :-)


Before you even get to this point you probably need to narrow down
exactly what he means by 'better'.

Oh, y'know, infinite bandwidth, infinite resolution, no 'stair steps',
more 'ambience', more 'inner detail', the usual stuff......... :-)
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Neil Jones wrote:
Jim Lesurf wrote:

In article , ruffrecords
wrote:



Already am. Having a disagreement with a guy on another group who
reckons hi end vinyl sounds way better - I mean obviously better than
CD. He suggested I should visit a hi-end hi-fi shop and listen to 5
to 10 grands worth of vinyl kit to hear waht I have been missing, so
that's waht I intend to do.

If he knows this, he presumably knows what system he heard, and where
he heard it. So I'd say it was up to him to say where you can listen
to this system he rates so highly. OTOH If his opinion is just a
generalisation, and he can't give you an example you can actually
listen to, then judge his opinion on that basis. :-)


Before you even get to this point you probably need to narrow down
exactly what he means by 'better'.

Neil



I don't want to repeat the entire argument but this guy lives in Miami
and claims to have a $73,000 turtable and similarly expensive other
components. Despite that, he argues that any vinyl based system in
the $5K to $10K range will 'blow away' any CD system of any kind and
that the differences will be so noticeable as to be obvious.

As to 'better' as you might expect this has been debated at length.
In summary it comes down to instruments sounding more like the real
thing, and of course he claims extensive and regular exposure to what
the real thing sounds like.

He further claims that tremendous technological advances have been
made in vinyl reproduction technology in the last 30 years so mit now
sounds better than any of us old lags would have remembered hearing
back in its heyday in the 70's.

Oh, and by the way, you can only achieve this incredible level of
quality by playing one of a few direct to disk records still in
circulation and of which any really decent hi-fi shop will have a few.

Ian