On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 15:54:01 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:
All-valve desks are popular too.
Care to define popular? ;-)

The TL Audio one has sold a few hundred, which is not bad for pro audio.
It's a fact that a lot of producers use the euphony of valves for some or
all of the recording process. No big deal though.

I'm old enough to remember all valve desks, and even a fairly small one
had an equipment room full of bays.

Only a true nutcase would go back to that - given it offers no possible
advantages. Apart from on the advertising blurb to the gullible.;-)

All valve in the signal chain, not necessarily in power supplies etc. :-)
Saying it has "no possible advantages" implies that all producers who hear a
difference with valves, and like the difference, are imagining it, which
clearly is a rather large claim to make.

But then we knew that anyway :-).

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Paul wrote:
I'm old enough to remember all valve desks, and even a fairly small
one had an equipment room full of bays.

Only a true nutcase would go back to that - given it offers no
possible advantages. Apart from on the advertising blurb to the
gullible.;-)

All valve in the signal chain, not necessarily in power supplies etc.

The power supplies took up a tiny proportion of the racks. And most of the
power supply space was transformers and capacitors anyway - how are you
going to reduce those in size?

:-) Saying it has "no possible advantages" implies that all producers
who hear a difference with valves, and like the difference, are
imagining it, which clearly is a rather large claim to make.

If they're looking for a particular 'old' sound, then perhaps. But you
could do this with an FX rack anyway - not the entire fooking desk. And
just how many studios could find full time work for a valve desk - given
the horrendous cost of building a half decent one?

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:


If they're looking for a particular 'old' sound, then perhaps. But you
could do this with an FX rack anyway - not the entire fooking desk. And
just how many studios could find full time work for a valve desk - given
the horrendous cost of building a half decent one?

Well there's one studio that is booked up months in advance that uses
mainly valve gear. And, as Paul says, there are certainly a few studios
with the TL Audio desk.

The valve sound is extremely popular these days - I wouldn't be
surprised to find that most recently released records feature sounds
recorded with valves somewhere in the signal chain.

Cheers.

James.

"James Perrett" wrote in message
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:


If they're looking for a particular 'old' sound, then perhaps. But you
could do this with an FX rack anyway - not the entire fooking desk. And
just how many studios could find full time work for a valve desk - given
the horrendous cost of building a half decent one?

Well there's one studio that is booked up months in advance that uses
mainly valve gear. And, as Paul says, there are certainly a few studios
with the TL Audio desk.

The valve sound is extremely popular these days


:-)

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James Perrett wrote:
Well there's one studio that is booked up months in advance that uses
mainly valve gear.

You keep on introducing 'mainly' etc. Either valves are the be all and end
all, or they're not. If you simply accept that they are introducing a
wanted form of distortion, then you certainly don't need the whole chain
to be valve.

And, as Paul says, there are certainly a few studios
with the TL Audio desk.

The valve sound is extremely popular these days - I wouldn't be
surprised to find that most recently released records feature sounds
recorded with valves somewhere in the signal chain.

I'm not denying they have their uses for a particular sound. Just the idea
of an entire valve studio. It's nonsense.

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