On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 18:07:42 +0100, "Keith G"
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On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 01:23:21 +0100, "Keith G"
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I trust fellow 'sportsmen' here will note that I don't take an easy
shot
at this 'low bird'...... ;-)

Isn't that a Chavette?

Wasn't that a nasty little Vauxhall hatchback?

The HS was neither nasty nor little! It was only displaced by the
appearance of the all-conquering Audi Quattro, and both HS and HSR
versions are now valuable classics. Unfortunately, a lot of standard
'Shoveits' were Chavised with big wheels and plastic 'droopsnoot'
noses - indeed, they were direct ancestors of the bright orange Corsas
with DTM wings and dustbin exhausts which plague our streets today....

I'm seeing quite a few 350Zs around, and a small car with a big engine
and rear drive is starting to bring back fond memories.....
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Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

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On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 18:07:42 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
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On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 01:23:21 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

I trust fellow 'sportsmen' here will note that I don't take an
easy
shot
at this 'low bird'...... ;-)

Isn't that a Chavette?

Wasn't that a nasty little Vauxhall hatchback?

The HS was neither nasty nor little! It was only displaced by the
appearance of the all-conquering Audi Quattro, and both HS and HSR
versions are now valuable classics. Unfortunately, a lot of standard
'Shoveits' were Chavised with big wheels and plastic 'droopsnoot'
noses - indeed, they were direct ancestors of the bright orange Corsas
with DTM wings and dustbin exhausts which plague our streets today....

I'm seeing quite a few 350Zs around, and a small car with a big engine
and rear drive is starting to bring back fond memories.....


Steady on! You'll be building that SET next......!! ;-)

On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 12:55:59 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

Steady on! You'll be building that SET next......!! ;-)

I have never had *any* intention of building a SET amplifier! You do
recall that Set was an evil god, don't you? :-)
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Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 12:55:59 +0100, "Keith G"
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Steady on! You'll be building that SET next......!! ;-)


I have never had *any* intention of building a SET amplifier! You do
recall that Set was an evil god, don't you? :-)

Interesting analogy, reading a link about Set

http://www.touregypt.net/godsofegypt/set.htm

Shows that he was a good god at first, and then the PR went against him.

What goes around comes around :-)

--
Nick

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On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 12:55:59 +0100, "Keith G"
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Steady on! You'll be building that SET next......!! ;-)

I have never had *any* intention of building a SET amplifier!



Well, there you go - I could have sworn I saw you post 'you were tempted to
build one yourself' at some point???

(I must be losing it....... ;-)

On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 11:46:01 +0100, "Keith G"
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"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
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On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 12:55:59 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

Steady on! You'll be building that SET next......!! ;-)

I have never had *any* intention of building a SET amplifier!


Well, there you go - I could have sworn I saw you post 'you were tempted to
build one yourself' at some point???

(I must be losing it....... ;-)

You probably are - but what I said was that I was considering
designing and building a triode amp. I most certainly did *not* say a
single-ended amp, since they're fundamentally incompetent, and my
point was that it should be possible to build a *good* amp, even when
technically challenged by using valves........
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Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

In message , Stewart
Pinkerton writes
On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 11:46:01 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
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On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 12:55:59 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

Steady on! You'll be building that SET next......!! ;-)

I have never had *any* intention of building a SET amplifier!


Well, there you go - I could have sworn I saw you post 'you were tempted to
build one yourself' at some point???

(I must be losing it....... ;-)

You probably are - but what I said was that I was considering
designing and building a triode amp. I most certainly did *not* say a
single-ended amp, since they're fundamentally incompetent, and my
point was that it should be possible to build a *good* amp, even when
technically challenged by using valves........

I was at the National Vintage Communications Fair at the NEC today. One
chap had a pair of 833 triodes for sale at only £10 each. Now if you
were prepared to have the OPTs made (about 12K primary Z at 200mA dc
should do) and you build the 2kV supply then you could have a stereo SE
triode amp to beat the Japanese monsters.
--
Chris Morriss

"Stewart Pinkerton" explained...

and my
point was that it should be possible to build a *good* amp, even when
technically challenged by using valves........

But wouldn't it be nicer to build a naughty amp, and have some fun?

Heaven help us when we all subscrbe to the 'flat response curve is best'
argument.
I'd much rather rely on selecting the amp that my ears enjoy most.

Then again, maybe I'm a fool . . .albeit a happy one.

_______
Geoff B

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On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 11:46:01 +0100, "Keith G"
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"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
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On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 12:55:59 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

Steady on! You'll be building that SET next......!! ;-)

I have never had *any* intention of building a SET amplifier!


Well, there you go - I could have sworn I saw you post 'you were tempted
to
build one yourself' at some point???

(I must be losing it....... ;-)

You probably are - but what I said was that I was considering
designing and building a triode amp. I most certainly did *not* say a
single-ended amp, since they're fundamentally incompetent, and my
point was that it should be possible to build a *good* amp, even when
technically challenged by using valves........


Well, come on then - cut the cackle and get stuck in! Do what new Geoff says
and 'have some fun'! (Who knows, if you build it it, you might even like
it!! ;-)

In any case, you should be able to make a few ackers on it if you didn't
want to keep it - who here could resist a 'Pinky Special'?? Feck, you could
even spray it pink and get a real 'rosy glow'....!! :-)

On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 18:56:20 +0100, Chris Morriss
wrote:

In message , Stewart
Pinkerton writes

what I said was that I was considering
designing and building a triode amp. I most certainly did *not* say a
single-ended amp, since they're fundamentally incompetent, and my
point was that it should be possible to build a *good* amp, even when
technically challenged by using valves........

I was at the National Vintage Communications Fair at the NEC today. One
chap had a pair of 833 triodes for sale at only £10 each. Now if you
were prepared to have the OPTs made (about 12K primary Z at 200mA dc
should do) and you build the 2kV supply then you could have a stereo SE
triode amp to beat the Japanese monsters.

Which part of 'they're fundamentally incompetent' did you fail to
understand?..................

Also, why would one save a few quid by buying those triodes, when a
pair of suitable wideband output trannies would cost the best part of
a grand? That's the *other* reason that SETAs are a bad idea, the
trannies have to be absolutely *huge* because of the high level of DC
current.
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Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering