Spendor, Proac, Dynaudio models
 

On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 16:46:24 GMT, Newbie wrote:

Nick Gorham wrote:

: Having been away from audio for a long time, I am now looking to
: upgrade from KEF 104ab, an speaker, probably similar to Spendor and
: Rogers models. I would prefer a floorstander, but not much larger
: footprint than my present speakers (ie, no Quads or Maggies). This is
: for 2-channel stereo, not home theater.
:
:
: Please suggest suitable brands and models. Friends have suggeted
: Spendor, Proac and Dynaudio. However, I am confused by various "series"
: within a brands (don't recall that happening when I shopped last time
: but could just be my faulty memory!), eg, should I be looking at
: Contour or something else in dynaudio?

: I may have missed it, but have you given any idea of a budget ?

No. I have plenty of money, but I am not determined to spend it. :) I
could say 5K, but I would like to spend less and can spend more. Part
of it is to determine where the best value is, that would be noticeable
improvement upon my KEF's for least amount of money.

No one seems to have suggested AVI. Their stand mounting models are
well regarded. I have a pair of Pro-Nines which give excellent
results. (A snip at £700 a pair)

Bill

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"Fleetie" wrote in message
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"MINe 109" wrote
(Still remember listening at nearly top volume to Metallica "One" on
NS-1000Ms with a Quad 606 in the late 80s in the dem room at Chatham
Sevenoaks Hi-Fi, where I had a part-time job back then, after we'd
shut the shop. Our ears nearly bled!)

I've seen them, but have never heard them.

They (NS-1000M) were noted for being efficient *and* being able to take
high power.


Martin
--
M.A.Poyser Tel.: 07967
110890
Manchester, U.K.
http://www.fleetie.demon.co.uk


Yes but in pro situations they blew tweeters like no tomorrow, I was told
that on average 6 tweeters were subsequently provided to pro-owners for a
pair within the ownership period. The trick to calm the ear bleeding
treble was a sheet of soft toilet paper over the tweeters. True engineering
:-)

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Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

: I had 104s, and I can assure you that he will have no troble at all in
: this regard. Given our new knowledge of his budget, I'd suggest a hard
: look at the B&W N804, the Spendor S9 and the JMLab Elektra range. Also
: of course the incomparable Quad 988/989 for a completely different
: experience.

Hello Stewart. I appreciate your suggestions. However, I live a small
(expensive but tiny!) big-city apartment. The Quads are out of the
question! I suppose the speakers could be tall, but must have a small
footprint.

One general question I can't even articulate well goes like this: If
you have very good speakers of this age (my KEF's, or BC-1s, Rogers,
etc.), with no obvious breakdown, just old age, is it better to get
them "reconditioned", or has the speaker technology improved so much
that one should replace them?

Anyway, what are the best "sleek" speakers that don't need much floor
space?

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In article , Newbie
wrote:

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

: I had 104s, and I can assure you that he will have no troble at all in
: this regard. Given our new knowledge of his budget, I'd suggest a hard
: look at the B&W N804, the Spendor S9 and the JMLab Elektra range. Also
: of course the incomparable Quad 988/989 for a completely different
: experience.

Hello Stewart. I appreciate your suggestions. However, I live a small
(expensive but tiny!) big-city apartment. The Quads are out of the
question! I suppose the speakers could be tall, but must have a small
footprint.

One general question I can't even articulate well goes like this: If
you have very good speakers of this age (my KEF's, or BC-1s, Rogers,
etc.), with no obvious breakdown, just old age, is it better to get
them "reconditioned", or has the speaker technology improved so much
that one should replace them?

Are you dissatisfied with the sound? There could be a simple fix by
repositioning them or using room treatments. Maybe you could tell us
about the room: hard floors, high ceilings, square footage, that kind of
thing.

Anyway, what are the best "sleek" speakers that don't need much floor
space?

The Magneplanar 1.6 are tall but only 19" wide and 2" deep.

Stephen

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Dodge McRodgered said:

Well if some have the audacity to think that all cd players and amps
sound the same why not also speakers?

Short answer : physics.

For the long answer see either one of Howard's books, note.

--
Sander de Waal
" SOA of a KT88? Sufficient. "

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Sander deWaal said:

Well if some have the audacity to think that all cd players and amps
sound the same why not also speakers?

Short answer : physics.

For the long answer see either one of Howard's books, note.

Ferstlerianism has a profound effect on what's known of physics. For
example, Ferstler preaches that mass can overcome inertia and that
causality does not exist.

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MINe 109 wrote:

: Are you dissatisfied with the sound? There could be a simple fix by
: repositioning them or using room treatments. Maybe you could tell us
: about the room: hard floors, high ceilings, square footage, that kind of
: thing.

No, not realy dissatisfied, the condition would be better described as
"20 year itch". :) Just wondering if there are much better deals out
there now.

You have to appreciate that I can't do what one can in most Americans
cities: throw my speakers in the car and take them to a high-end dealer
for side-by-side comparison. That's a little difficult when you depend
on NYC subways and buses for getting around. Hence all this research.

When I bought these speakers I really wanted the Quads but my room
couldn't take them. It is ironic to find myself in the same situation
many years later. :)

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MINe 109 wrote:

: Are you dissatisfied with the sound? There could be a simple fix by
: repositioning them or using room treatments. Maybe you could tell us
: about the room: hard floors, high ceilings, square footage, that kind
: of thing.

No, not realy dissatisfied, the condition would be better described as
"20 year itch". :) Just wondering if there are much better speaker
deals out there now.

You have to appreciate that I can't do what one can in most Americans
cities: throw my speakers in the car and take them to a high-end dealer
for side-by-side comparison. That's a little difficult when you depend
on NYC subways and buses for getting around. Hence all this research.
If I could identify 1-2 best candidates, I could take my speakers in a
cab or even better convince the dealer to loan me a pair for a few days
for in-home comparison.

The room is approx 15x20, there is a false ceiling at about 11', wood
floor with 9x12 rug in the middle , leather furniture furniture (big
couch, small couch, a chair, ottoman), coffee table, entertainment
rack, a few paintings on the wall.

That said I tend to keep my audio purchases for a long time, so nothing
can be over-selected for this particular room.

When I bought these speakers I really wanted the Quads but my room
couldn't take them. It is ironic to find myself in the same situation
many years later...

Any great unknown speaker brands?
 

In article , Newbie
wrote:

MINe 109 wrote:

: Are you dissatisfied with the sound? There could be a simple fix by
: repositioning them or using room treatments. Maybe you could tell us
: about the room: hard floors, high ceilings, square footage, that kind
: of thing.

No, not realy dissatisfied, the condition would be better described as
"20 year itch". :) Just wondering if there are much better speaker
deals out there now.

You have to appreciate that I can't do what one can in most Americans
cities: throw my speakers in the car and take them to a high-end dealer
for side-by-side comparison. That's a little difficult when you depend
on NYC subways and buses for getting around. Hence all this research.
If I could identify 1-2 best candidates, I could take my speakers in a
cab or even better convince the dealer to loan me a pair for a few days
for in-home comparison.

The room is approx 15x20, there is a false ceiling at about 11', wood
floor with 9x12 rug in the middle , leather furniture furniture (big
couch, small couch, a chair, ottoman), coffee table, entertainment
rack, a few paintings on the wall.

I don't see any obvious problems. I built a system in a bad room (way
too long in a student apartment) and had the pleasure of moving to a
good room. In the old space, I did lots of upgrading to get everything
just a little better, but not to great overall effect. In the new, I
made room for the Quads and the other system now enhances my television.

That said I tend to keep my audio purchases for a long time, so nothing
can be over-selected for this particular room.

When I bought these speakers I really wanted the Quads but my room
couldn't take them. It is ironic to find myself in the same situation
many years later...

NYC? Hmm. Sorry to throw names around without direct experience, but
some classical types swear by Shahinian.

Stephen

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"AKT" wrote in message
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Michael McKelvy wrote:

My choice would be for Dynaudio and Proac since they use the top 2
drivers made

Do you know which series within each model would be best to look at?
Maybe I have been out of this game for too long but the situation
confuses me. For example, Dynaudio site has Audience, Contour,
Confidence, and Evidence! Every write-up is superlative, leaving no
hint of what is the series aimed at. If you know Dynaudio (or proac)
range, please help!

My experience with Dynaudio is more with the DIY end of things, so If it
were me in your place I'd look and listen to what was in my price range.
The same applies to Proac. The Dynaudio Audience 122 resembles the Dynaudio
TWYNN which was sold as a kit and had a very spacious and detailed sound,
with good bass down into the 30's.