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"Dodge McRodgered" wrote


In matters of taste, no one can arbitrate what is right or wrong without
exposing themselves to charges of "pompous, arrogant ****" - hence my hifi
is better than yours :oP


It works like this. There are three groups of people A) People of
normal hearing who like vinyl and valves.


Correct.


B) People with defective
hearing who prefer SS.


Correct.


C) People with defective hearing and tourettes
syndrome who are unable to prevent themselves from making
inapprorpriate comments to the people in Group A.


Correct.....

:-)

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"Kurt Hamster" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 07:26:59 +0000 (UTC), Stewart Pinkerton used
to say...

On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 15:41:52 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

Is because I ****ING SAY SO!

snip usual ********

VALVES AND VINYL ARE BETTER THAN SS/CD. END OF.

*ANYONE* who takes issue with me over this here will be SUMMARILY
BINNED -
no exceptions.

Nice to see that you're as receptive to reasoned debate as always.....

Whoosh -


I'm looking over your shoulder here Kurt, tell me I *didn't* see the words
'reasoned debate'.....????

???

Jeez - ya hafta fekkin' larf!!!

LOL!

:-)))

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On 29 Oct 2004 12:45:19 GMT, ohawker (Andy
Evans) wrote:

I don't want to lift the needle off part way through, because I'm worried I
will put yet another tick into the record. Likewise when it reaches the end I
don't want to leave the stylus scraping around the lead-out groove. It is a
very nervy sort of experience.

Don - Have you considered getting out more, taking a holiday and spending more
time in healthy tasks like peeling potatoes, digging up the turnips and oiling
the wheelbarrow?


Much easier than that - I just listen to CDS! Incidentally, the 90% of
my vinyl that I still listen to is now on CD ROM, so effectively this
is a dead problem.

I have done the minimum amount of de-clicking (really only in the
inter-track gaps) to make it acceptable, and the job is done.

BTW - you should never peel potatoes. Didn't your mum teach you
nuffink?

d
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

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BTW - you should never peel potatoes. Didn't your mum teach you nuffink?

Funny you should say that - she's peeled potatoes all her life and I haven't,
and the one time I do she starts rebuking me and telling me to leave them
unpeeled - a convert!

=== Andy Evans ===
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Can't we just agree to differ, I know, silly idea....
Nicely said, Nick.
Agreed.

You'd have to subject the difference to a double blind test to make sure the
difference could be agreed by all, though.

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On 29 Oct 2004 14:27:43 GMT, ohawker (Andy
Evans) wrote:

BTW - you should never peel potatoes. Didn't your mum teach you nuffink?

Funny you should say that - she's peeled potatoes all her life and I haven't,
and the one time I do she starts rebuking me and telling me to leave them
unpeeled - a convert!

Sure she wasn't just being contrary? When I was about sixteen I was
going out one winter's day, and she called to me to put a jumper on. I
showed her I had one, and she thought about it for a moment and said -
your trousers are too thin.

You can't win.

d
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

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On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:57:08 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

OK, you know who said this don't you: "When the blokey designed the original
Ongaku, he had a blank cheque, an open brief, all the time he needed and
every single valve in the world was available to him - he chose the 211...."

Which did not of course imply that he knew what he was doing!

The 845 is superior - if you *must* use valves.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

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In article ,
Don Pearce wrote:
Sure she wasn't just being contrary? When I was about sixteen I was
going out one winter's day, and she called to me to put a jumper on. I
showed her I had one, and she thought about it for a moment and said -
your trousers are too thin.

My (Scots) mum:-

"Would you like some of my homemade bramble jelly or blackcurrant jam with
these freshly made pancakes?"

" The bramble jelly, please, mum"

" And what's wrong with the blackcurrant?"

--
*We waste time, so you don't have to *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:57:08 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


OK, you know who said this don't you: "When the blokey designed the original
Ongaku, he had a blank cheque, an open brief, all the time he needed and
every single valve in the world was available to him - he chose the 211...."


Which did not of course imply that he knew what he was doing!

The 845 is superior - if you *must* use valves.

I would agree that the 845 has the advantage of lower Ra, so making
transformer design simpiler, and it may be a tad more linear than the
211, but its big problem is its low mu, which places just as many
problems onto the driver stage, so I think you loose as much as you win,
which is often the case with valve design.

I actually prefer the sound of the 211, though while the comparisons
while blind, they were restricted in that the same driver and output
transformer were used for both valves. This may have been against the
845, though it could have instead, been to the 845's advantage, and the
211 was better dispite all that.

--
Nick

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On 29 Oct 2004 14:27:43 GMT, ohawker (Andy
Evans) wrote:

BTW - you should never peel potatoes. Didn't your mum teach you nuffink?

Funny you should say that - she's peeled potatoes all her life and I haven't,
and the one time I do she starts rebuking me and telling me to leave them
unpeeled - a convert!

So, your mother's become a scrubber, eh? :-)
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering