Iain said that he really enjoyed the exchange of info and ideas and asked me
to pass his best regards to Keith,
Andy, Jim and Dave, etc but said he unfortunately couldn't continue in the
group under the present circumstances.
I'm now getting some very interesting info from Iain by email & I'm sure he
won't mind me passing a bit on...

"I met the saxophone players from the Duke Ellington Orchestra when
we recorded a concert in the UK not long before his death.
I attended the rehearsals, and found them fascinating."
"The saxophones sat in a circle, and each player had his eye on
Johnny Hodges, first alto. They followed his level and vibrato,
so that five saxophones sounded like one saxophone with
five voices:-) It was magic:-)))))."
"I talked at length with Harry Carney, (baritone sax/clnt.)
He had played with Ellington
from the very early days - more than 40 years.
He said "Where is there to go when you have
played in the Famous Duke Ellington Orchestra?" I could
see what he meant."


Good stuff!
I think it's a shame that he's gone from this NG :-(

Mike

On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 21:04:20 -0000, "Mike Gilmour"
wrote:

Iain said that he really enjoyed the exchange of info and ideas and asked me
to pass his best regards to Keith,
Andy, Jim and Dave, etc but said he unfortunately couldn't continue in the
group under the present circumstances.

It was a shame that he found that he could not receive homage for his
magnificence from all the members - I wonder what he's used to at
home? Obviously he knows *everything* about domestic music
reproduction, and should *never* be challenged on his pontifications -
just look at the wonderful list of record credits and famous names he
trots out on every possible occasion....................

I'm now getting some very interesting info from Iain by email & I'm sure he
won't mind me passing a bit on...

"I met the saxophone players from the Duke Ellington Orchestra when
we recorded a concert in the UK not long before his death.
I attended the rehearsals, and found them fascinating."
"The saxophones sat in a circle, and each player had his eye on
Johnny Hodges, first alto. They followed his level and vibrato,
so that five saxophones sounded like one saxophone with
five voices:-) It was magic:-)))))."
"I talked at length with Harry Carney, (baritone sax/clnt.)
He had played with Ellington
from the very early days - more than 40 years.
He said "Where is there to go when you have
played in the Famous Duke Ellington Orchestra?" I could
see what he meant."


Good stuff!
I think it's a shame that he's gone from this NG :-(

Agreed, but the above stuff, while certainly interesting, belongs in
a music newsgroup, not an audio newsgroup.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 21:04:20 +0000, Mike Gilmour wrote:

Iain said that he really enjoyed the exchange of info and ideas and asked
me to pass his best regards to Keith,
Andy, Jim and Dave, etc but said he unfortunately couldn't continue in the
group under the present circumstances.
I'm now getting some very interesting info from Iain by email & I'm sure
he
won't mind me passing a bit on...

"I met the saxophone players from the Duke Ellington Orchestra when we
recorded a concert in the UK not long before his death. I attended the
rehearsals, and found them fascinating." "The saxophones sat in a circle,
and each player had his eye on Johnny Hodges, first alto. They followed
his level and vibrato, so that five saxophones sounded like one saxophone
with five voices:-) It was magic:-)))))." "I talked at length with Harry
Carney, (baritone sax/clnt.) He had played with Ellington
from the very early days - more than 40 years. He said "Where is there to
go when you have played in the Famous Duke Ellington Orchestra?" I could
see what he meant."


Good stuff!
I think it's a shame that he's gone from this NG :-(


Am I allowed to say "me too" on here? ;-)

In spite of Stewart's apparent insistance that "audio" and "music" are two
different subjects I'm sure he would agree that they can be closely
related. Audio equipment is fascinating in its own right, but most people
listen to other things apart from test tones. Music is also fascinating,
but as we (mostly) can't fit a symphony orchestra (or even an acoustic
folk duo in some cases!) into our living rooms the audio equipment comes
in handy.

IMHO we can only lose valuable insight into the music side of things by
losing Iain's comments. That can only be bad for those interested in
recreating the atmosphere of live performances.

Stewart, please don't try to convert this ng into another
rec.audio.high-end. There is room here for material that would be
considered OT on there. There is nothing in the ng title to suggest that
we are looking for perfect sound - the word "audio" leaves a lot of space
for those who like to listen to single-ended OC81 transistors into 75ohm
2.5" speakers!

--
Mick
(no M$ software on here... :-) )
Web: http://www.nascom.info

In article ,
mick wrote:
In spite of Stewart's apparent insistance that "audio" and "music" are
two different subjects I'm sure he would agree that they can be closely
related. Audio equipment is fascinating in its own right, but most
people listen to other things apart from test tones. Music is also
fascinating, but as we (mostly) can't fit a symphony orchestra (or even
an acoustic folk duo in some cases!) into our living rooms the audio
equipment comes in handy.

Of course they have some relationship, but discussion of technical matters
would probably be considered OT in a music group - of which there are
thousands covering every possible taste.

It would be akin to discussing driving on a group about car design or
maintenance.

Of course, some want to take over the group and mould it to their own
rather narrow view of audio. And I do mean narrow. Such views are best
served by their own specialist group - one of which they created, but now
ignore. Strange, that. The only logical conclusion is that they have some
evangelical need to bring their message to everyone.

I enjoyed Iain's posts, but then I've got an interest in old methods of
working in 'my industry'. Where I'd disagree with him was his insistence
that those methods had much relevance to today's practice - except for a
niche market. Which of course if he's filling he's likely to defend...

--
*Born free...Taxed to death.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 21:04:20 -0000, "Mike Gilmour"
wrote:

Iain said that he really enjoyed the exchange of info and ideas and asked
me
to pass his best regards to Keith,
Andy, Jim and Dave, etc but said he unfortunately couldn't continue in the
group under the present circumstances.

It was a shame that he found that he could not receive homage for his
magnificence from all the members - I wonder what he's used to at
home? Obviously he knows *everything* about domestic music
reproduction, and should *never* be challenged on his pontifications -
just look at the wonderful list of record credits and famous names he
trots out on every possible occasion....................


Personally I think that says more about you than it does about Iain,
however being who - you wouldn't see it anyway.


I'm now getting some very interesting info from Iain by email & I'm sure
he
won't mind me passing a bit on...

"I met the saxophone players from the Duke Ellington Orchestra when
we recorded a concert in the UK not long before his death.
I attended the rehearsals, and found them fascinating."
"The saxophones sat in a circle, and each player had his eye on
Johnny Hodges, first alto. They followed his level and vibrato,
so that five saxophones sounded like one saxophone with
five voices:-) It was magic:-)))))."
"I talked at length with Harry Carney, (baritone sax/clnt.)
He had played with Ellington
from the very early days - more than 40 years.
He said "Where is there to go when you have
played in the Famous Duke Ellington Orchestra?" I could
see what he meant."


Good stuff!
I think it's a shame that he's gone from this NG :-(

Agreed, but the above stuff, while certainly interesting, belongs in
a music newsgroup, not an audio newsgroup.


The word 'Audio' first definition from Dictionary.com "Of or relating to
humanly audible sound."
No Stewart its not all about High Fidelity. Audio encompasses a much wider
field than that. Narrow minded people however would be concerned with just
the one.

Mike

Stewart Pinkerton wrote

Agreed, but the above stuff, while certainly interesting, belongs in
a music newsgroup, not an audio newsgroup.

I disagree. This group is a broad church and what was posted falls within
the remit, I believe. If the post had said 'Duke Ellington is fab and I
think he's great', or something similar, then that would have been outside.
But how many times have you been listening to something and wondered about
the positioning of people in a recording? For that reason if none other,
what was posted has a place here.

Similarly, if someone should post using an example of music that moves or
interests them as an illustration of the character of different systems or
components therein, that's fair enough too, I think. And should the
discussion then veer off into things that aren't strictly within the group's
remit, or would more properly lie within another group (such as, for
example, who drives what car), well you don't *have* to read the posts. I,
and many others, contributed to, read and enjoyed a similar discussion a
while back that started with one thing and ended up, at least in part,
discussing the music of Richard Thompson, and I defend those posts as a
valid contribution to and use of this group.

Much of the 'my dad can fight your dad' stuff is so ultimately tedious for
many readers as to be a greater waste of bandwidth for the majority, but
no-one's saying it doesn't have a place.

T.
My £0.02...

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message

On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 21:04:20 -0000, "Mike Gilmour"
wrote:

Iain said that he really enjoyed the exchange of info and ideas and
asked me to pass his best regards to Keith,
Andy, Jim and Dave, etc but said he unfortunately couldn't continue
in the group under the present circumstances.

It was a shame that he found that he could not receive homage for his
magnificence from all the members - I wonder what he's used to at
home? Obviously he knows *everything* about domestic music
reproduction, and should *never* be challenged on his pontifications -
just look at the wonderful list of record credits and famous names he
trots out on every possible occasion....................

Too bad Iain couldn't drop pearls of technical wisdom as well as he could
drop names.

The tubies and vinylites around here are obviously very desperate for a
patron saint/champion.

In plan B, they finally wake up and find out that they are now in the 21st
century.

"mick" wrote


Good stuff!
I think it's a shame that he's gone from this NG :-(


Am I allowed to say "me too" on here? ;-)


Sure, if you don't mind Usenet's most predictable tit coming up with the
usual 'standard response' (referring to a certain popular ISP)....



In spite of Stewart's apparent insistance that "audio" and "music" are two
different subjects I'm sure he would agree that they can be closely
related. Audio equipment is fascinating in its own right, but most people
listen to other things apart from test tones. Music is also fascinating,
but as we (mostly) can't fit a symphony orchestra (or even an acoustic
folk duo in some cases!) into our living rooms the audio equipment comes
in handy.


Much he would like to think so, that clown doesn't write the rules here - as
was stated recently, if anybody wants to post about pickled onions here they
have the right and freedom so to do. It's up to others to read/not read such
posts and KF anyone by whom they feel persistently offended....

(Ain't hard is it?)

"Mike Gilmour" wrote in message
...
Iain said that he really enjoyed the exchange of info and ideas and asked
me to pass his best regards to Keith,
Andy, Jim and Dave, etc but said he unfortunately couldn't continue in the
group under the present circumstances.


Good stuff!
I think it's a shame that he's gone from this NG :-(


So do I.

I found his posts interesting and entertaining. Not surprised he didn't stay
the course though - he put too much energy into his posts.

(The important thing to remember when you are throwing sticks for idiots to
fetch is to use as little arm movement as possible - that way you can keep
it up longer.....)

I have read the whole of this thread, and I'm very pleased to be able to say
"no comment" Andy

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