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Old November 21st 04, 08:49 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
JustMe
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Default Neil Young prefers vinyl

I think everyone here would agree that the concept behind "Straight-line" is
to deliver the music as the artist intended, unsullied and uncoloured - an
accurate reflection of the artist's work.

Just reading an interview with Neil Young (HiFi Choice, January 2005), in
which he states,

"The analogue records always sounded better than anything else to me. But I
compared the new vinyl versions, which are taken from a first generation
analogue master copy, and the best just got better. It's a really good
feeling."

To be fair and put this in context, he also speaks well of DVD-Audio, but
it's clear that NY is one artist who sees vinyl as the source which is
closest to a "true replica".


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Old November 22nd 04, 06:11 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Stewart Pinkerton
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On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 21:49:41 -0000, "JustMe" wrote:

I think everyone here would agree that the concept behind "Straight-line" is
to deliver the music as the artist intended, unsullied and uncoloured - an
accurate reflection of the artist's work.

Just reading an interview with Neil Young (HiFi Choice, January 2005), in
which he states,

"The analogue records always sounded better than anything else to me. But I
compared the new vinyl versions, which are taken from a first generation
analogue master copy, and the best just got better. It's a really good
feeling."

To be fair and put this in context, he also speaks well of DVD-Audio, but
it's clear that NY is one artist who sees vinyl as the source which is
closest to a "true replica".


Yup, and he is *one* recording artist out of thousands. Furthermore,
his stuff is heavily EQ'd and overproduced pop crap, so who knows what
it's supposed to sound like? Finally, if he also likes DVD-A, which
sounds *nothing* like vinyl, what does that tell you? Now, try to find
*one* jazz or classical artist who wants his pure and natural master
tape sound mangled by vinyl.
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Old November 22nd 04, 06:22 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Tat Chan
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Default Neil Young prefers vinyl

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:


Yup, and he is *one* recording artist out of thousands. Furthermore,
his stuff is heavily EQ'd and overproduced pop crap, so who knows what
it's supposed to sound like?


Excuse me? "Neil Young == overproduced pop crap"???

His music is anything but pop crap.

Call it bluesy, folksy, country and rock (not for nothing is he known
as the Godfather of Grunge), but definitely not pop crap.
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Old November 22nd 04, 07:57 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Rob
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Default Neil Young prefers vinyl

Tat Chan wrote:
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:


Yup, and he is *one* recording artist out of thousands. Furthermore,
his stuff is heavily EQ'd and overproduced pop crap, so who knows what
it's supposed to sound like?



Excuse me? "Neil Young == overproduced pop crap"???

His music is anything but pop crap.

Call it bluesy, folksy, country and rock (not for nothing is he known
as the Godfather of Grunge), but definitely not pop crap.


One of the best around - live and recorded. I think SP might be
referring to one particular album - I personally don't think it was
overproduced, but the vocal went through one of those voice synth things
(really to highlight the problems for those without speech).

How anyone could consider After the Goldrush 'pop crap' or
'overproduced' defeats me (or any track from Decade for that matter).

Rob
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Old November 22nd 04, 09:00 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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In article ,
JustMe wrote:
I think everyone here would agree that the concept behind
"Straight-line" is to deliver the music as the artist intended,
unsullied and uncoloured - an accurate reflection of the artist's work.


Well, yes.

Just reading an interview with Neil Young (HiFi Choice, January 2005),
in which he states,


"The analogue records always sounded better than anything else to me.
But I compared the new vinyl versions, which are taken from a first
generation analogue master copy, and the best just got better. It's a
really good feeling."


Then he didn't like the master tape.

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Old November 22nd 04, 11:43 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
JustMe
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Default Neil Young prefers vinyl

I think everyone here would agree that the concept behind "Straight-line"
is
to deliver the music as the artist intended, unsullied and uncoloured -

an
accurate reflection of the artist's work.

Just reading an interview with Neil Young (HiFi Choice, January 2005), in
which he states,

"The analogue records always sounded better than anything else to me. But

I
compared the new vinyl versions, which are taken from a first generation
analogue master copy, and the best just got better. It's a really good
feeling."

To be fair and put this in context, he also speaks well of DVD-Audio, but
it's clear that NY is one artist who sees vinyl as the source which is
closest to a "true replica".


Yup, and he is *one* recording artist out of thousands. Furthermore,
his stuff is heavily EQ'd and overproduced pop crap, so who knows what
it's supposed to sound like? Finally, if he also likes DVD-A, which
sounds *nothing* like vinyl, what does that tell you? Now, try to find
*one* jazz or classical artist who wants his pure and natural master
tape sound mangled by vinyl.


Sure he's *one* recording artist. That does not invalidate his opinion in
any way.

You do youself a disservice with this reply, coming across like an old fart
who simply dislikes "pop" music and who dismisses the entire - and often
highly creative - production process when it doesn't suit his own agenda.


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Old November 22nd 04, 12:52 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Mike Gilmour
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
JustMe wrote:
I think everyone here would agree that the concept behind
"Straight-line" is to deliver the music as the artist intended,
unsullied and uncoloured - an accurate reflection of the artist's work.


Well, yes.

Just reading an interview with Neil Young (HiFi Choice, January 2005),
in which he states,


"The analogue records always sounded better than anything else to me.
But I compared the new vinyl versions, which are taken from a first
generation analogue master copy, and the best just got better. It's a
really good feeling."


Then he didn't like the master tape.

--
*I yell because I care

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.


It appears to me that NY is comparing previous analogue records to the new
vinyl versions and not the new vinyl versions to the analogue master copy


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Old November 22nd 04, 02:30 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
JustMe
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Default Neil Young prefers vinyl

"Mike Gilmour" wrote in message
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
JustMe wrote:
I think everyone here would agree that the concept behind
"Straight-line" is to deliver the music as the artist intended,
unsullied and uncoloured - an accurate reflection of the artist's work.


Well, yes.

Just reading an interview with Neil Young (HiFi Choice, January 2005),
in which he states,


"The analogue records always sounded better than anything else to me.
But I compared the new vinyl versions, which are taken from a first
generation analogue master copy, and the best just got better. It's a
really good feeling."


Then he didn't like the master tape.

--
*I yell because I care

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.


It appears to me that NY is comparing previous analogue records to the new
vinyl versions and not the new vinyl versions to the analogue master copy


That's how it read to me. He says that, of the options available before the
new release, vinyl was his medium of preference and that the new release on
vinyl is even better than the original.


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Old November 22nd 04, 03:19 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Roy
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Default Neil Young prefers vinyl


"JustMe" wrote in message
...
I think everyone here would agree that the concept behind "Straight-line"

is
to deliver the music as the artist intended, unsullied and uncoloured - an
accurate reflection of the artist's work.


No, there are plenty here who are more impressed by a warm coloured sound
than "unsullied and uncoloured" reproduction.



Just reading an interview with Neil Young (HiFi Choice, January 2005), in
which he states,

"The analogue records always sounded better than anything else to me. But

I
compared the new vinyl versions, which are taken from a first generation
analogue master copy, and the best just got better. It's a really good
feeling."

To be fair and put this in context, he also speaks well of DVD-Audio, but
it's clear that NY is one artist who sees vinyl as the source which is
closest to a "true replica".


I don't see where it says NY "sees vinyl as the source which is closest to a
true replica". It just says he prefers the sound.

Roy.




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Old November 22nd 04, 03:58 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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Default Neil Young prefers vinyl

In article ,
JustMe wrote:
It appears to me that NY is comparing previous analogue records to the
new vinyl versions and not the new vinyl versions to the analogue
master copy


That's how it read to me. He says that, of the options available before
the new release, vinyl was his medium of preference and that the new
release on vinyl is even better than the original.


Of course it could be he just prefers the sound of his voice as recorded
with added distortion as from an LP. Plenty of musicians prefer the sound
of their voice on dreadful PA mics rather than studio quality ones.

However, that's got nowt to do with the price of fish.

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