Computer discs will not work in the audio component style CD Recorders
even though they may appear to be the same.

I am not familiar enough to say what the encoding difference is on the
Music Discs. The audio compoent style CD recorders check for this
special encoding when a blank disc is inserted into the CD Burner. If
it does not read the special encoding the burner will not record on that
disc. My use of the term special encoding may not be fully accurate
although it is the best way I can describe it.

Yes, the " Music " CD-R and CD-RW do sell for a little more than blank
discs for computers asthe Copyright Societies are taxing a few cents on
every blank disc sold for the audio component style CD recorders.

Some of the Pro type dedicated audio CD recorders ( I think Tascam has
them and possibly others ) can use regular computer discs for recording.

Consumer audio component style CD Recorders are gaining in popularity
rapidly and most likely will replace home cassette recorders for the
future.

I have obtained excellent results with audio component type CD recorders
for making back up copies of new discs purchased and also recording some
of my favorite Vinyl onto CD.

Compare the price of Consumer Audio blank discs with that of some of the
better audio cassettes and the blank Audio Discs are less than half the
price.

Kurt Hamster in uk.rec.audio:

On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 04:43:59 -0400 (EDT), Beuzee Beuzob used
to say...

Computer discs will not work in the audio component style CD Recorders
even though they may appear to be the same.

I am not familiar enough to say what the encoding difference is on the
Music Discs. The audio compoent style CD recorders check for this
special encoding when a blank disc is inserted into the CD Burner. If
it does not read the special encoding the burner will not record on that
disc. My use of the term special encoding may not be fully accurate
although it is the best way I can describe it.

Yes, the " Music " CD-R and CD-RW do sell for a little more than blank
discs for computers asthe Copyright Societies are taxing a few cents on
every blank disc sold for the audio component style CD recorders.

Some of the Pro type dedicated audio CD recorders ( I think Tascam has
them and possibly others ) can use regular computer discs for recording.

Consumer audio component style CD Recorders are gaining in popularity
rapidly and most likely will replace home cassette recorders for the
future.

I have obtained excellent results with audio component type CD recorders
for making back up copies of new discs purchased and also recording some
of my favorite Vinyl onto CD.

Compare the price of Consumer Audio blank discs with that of some of the
better audio cassettes and the blank Audio Discs are less than half the
price.

Is it possible to get hacked firmware for these domestic CD recorders to
by-pass the 'taxed' flag?

Or maybe, I wonder, could you burn the flag onto the disc yourself by doing
a low-level copy of a 'taxed' disc?

--
Jim H

"Beuzee Beuzob" wrote in message


Computer discs will not work in the audio component style CD Recorders
even though they may appear to be the same.

Think of it as a tax on people who aren't savvy enough to have a CD burner
in their computer. It's like lotteries - basically a tax on people who are
naive or others who are knowledgeable but don't think too clearly.

In article , Arny Krueger
wrote:
"Beuzee Beuzob" wrote in message


Computer discs will not work in the audio component style CD Recorders
even though they may appear to be the same.

Think of it as a tax on people who aren't savvy enough to have a CD
burner in their computer.

Or on those who *choose* as a matter of preference to have an audio CDRW
recorder as part of their audio system, and use their computer in another
room for other purposes.[1] So think of it as a 'tax' on my/our personal
freedom to choose what I find more convenient. :-) Wonder why the UK
government want me to use a computer burner as opposed to a dedicated audio
one...

Above said: The problem for me is that it does not seem to be a 'tax' at
all. So far as I have been able to tell, none of the money actually reaches
any UK musical artists, etc. Nor to the UK government. So far as I can
tell, the makers just charge a few pence more for 'audio; discs because
people will pay it.

Mind you, I don't care much as the price differential is tiny so far as I
am concerned.

It's like lotteries - basically a tax on people who are naive or others
who are knowledgeable but don't think too clearly.

Not guilty of ever buying a ticket, or even of betting on anything else
like it as far as I can recall. :-)

Slainte,

Jim

[1] Despite my computer having a CDRW writer.

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Audio Misc http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/AudioMisc/index.html
Armstrong Audio http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/Audio/armstrong.html
Barbirolli Soc. http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/JBSoc/JBSoc.html

the audio CDRs should be of a better quality,
made to a guaranteed spec maybe!



"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
...
In article , Arny Krueger
wrote:
"Beuzee Beuzob" wrote in message


Computer discs will not work in the audio component style CD Recorders
even though they may appear to be the same.

Think of it as a tax on people who aren't savvy enough to have a CD
burner in their computer.

Or on those who *choose* as a matter of preference to have an audio CDRW
recorder as part of their audio system, and use their computer in another
room for other purposes.[1] So think of it as a 'tax' on my/our personal
freedom to choose what I find more convenient. :-) Wonder why the UK
government want me to use a computer burner as opposed to a dedicated
audio
one...

Above said: The problem for me is that it does not seem to be a 'tax' at
all. So far as I have been able to tell, none of the money actually
reaches
any UK musical artists, etc. Nor to the UK government. So far as I can
tell, the makers just charge a few pence more for 'audio; discs because
people will pay it.

Mind you, I don't care much as the price differential is tiny so far as I
am concerned.

It's like lotteries - basically a tax on people who are naive or others
who are knowledgeable but don't think too clearly.

Not guilty of ever buying a ticket, or even of betting on anything else
like it as far as I can recall. :-)

Slainte,

Jim

[1] Despite my computer having a CDRW writer.

--
Electronics
http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm
Audio Misc http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/AudioMisc/index.html
Armstrong Audio http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/Audio/armstrong.html
Barbirolli Soc. http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/JBSoc/JBSoc.html

In article , malcolm
wrote:
the audio CDRs should be of a better quality, made to a guaranteed spec
maybe!

TBH I doubt this is the case. I have never seen any measurements that
support the idea that - for example - the TDK XG *audio* CDR blanks are of
any better 'quality' than their XG *data* discs. So far as I have been able
to tell, the only difference is a few pence in price for the modulation
pattern that identified the 'audio' CDR. :-)

With other brands and 'white labels', though, who knows...

Slainte,

Jim

--
Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm
Audio Misc http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/AudioMisc/index.html
Armstrong Audio http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/Audio/armstrong.html
Barbirolli Soc. http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/JBSoc/JBSoc.html