In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
Chris Morriss wrote:
If you're using a cartridge direct into a soundcard, I'm not surprised
you're 'not entirely happy'.


A ceramic cartridge needs a very high impedance load (at least 1Meg) if
it is going into an unequalised input. A simple op-amp unity gain
buffer using a FET input amp (even a TL071 will do) should make things a
lot better.

Yes. I think you'd find difficulty in buying a ready made pre-amp for a
ceramic cartridge these days. Not that I'm sure anyone would want to -
although there was a time when it was thought they might be a way forward.
The BBC once used them on one of their turntables - probably designed in
the '50s. The cart was an ACOS - can't remember the model. Then there was
the Decca Deram.

My first cartridge was the Sonotone 9TAHC, which wasn't too bad as these
things go.
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Chris Morriss

"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message

In article , Arny Krueger
wrote:


The Lenco GL75 looks like about one and-a-half cuts higher than the
bottom of the barrel. You don't want to try any cartridge that is
too sensitive or has too low of a tracking force in it. The Shure in
particular looks like it might be robust enough for the arm.

FWIW I used an M75ED, and then the V15/III for some years with a GL75.
Although not ideal in some ways - e.g. LF resonance - the combination
worked quite well, and the GL75 is very useful for old '78's that are
actually some other speed like 80rmp, etc. Hence I'd say that the
GL75 (in good condition!) and a decent Shure with a '78' stylus might
be a good combination for this kind of thing.

Interesting. My experience with Lenco turntables was that they looked great,
but had massy, high-friction arms.

In article ,
Arny Krueger wrote:
Interesting. My experience with Lenco turntables was that they looked
great, but had massy, high-friction arms.

Yup - and were best matched to a medium compliance cart. Like the Goldring
G800H etc.

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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Arny Krueger wrote:

Interesting. My experience with Lenco turntables was that they looked
great, but had massy, high-friction arms.


Yup - and were best matched to a medium compliance cart. Like the Goldring
G800H etc.

The Goldring G800 was a popular choice for the Garrard SP25
in the good old days. It sounded curiously wooden.
I preferred the Shure M75 (when cheap and nasty was all I could afford.)

--
Eiron.

In article ,
Eiron wrote:
The Goldring G800 was a popular choice for the Garrard SP25
in the good old days. It sounded curiously wooden.

It could be helped along by altering the capacitive loading. One genuine
case where the choice of cable really did have an effect.

I preferred the Shure M75 (when cheap and nasty was all I could afford.)

Could be. I only used a cheap and cheerful G800E when by Decca was off for
fixing. And they kept them in stores. ;-)

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In article , Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:
In article , Arny Krueger
wrote:
Interesting. My experience with Lenco turntables was that they looked
great, but had massy, high-friction arms.

Yup - and were best matched to a medium compliance cart. Like the
Goldring G800H etc.

In general terms, I'd agree with you both. Something like the old Shure M75
series was nominally more appropriate than a V15 due to the arm's nominal
characteristics. However I gave the V15/III a go and it worked quite
nicely. But I suspect that some 'luck' came into this as I suspect the arm
friction varies a lot from one of the relevant arms to the next. :-) I
did not find the low resonance a problem, but I suspect some people may
have done, depending on the LPs they had!

Slainte,

Jim

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message

In article ,
Eiron wrote:
The Goldring G800 was a popular choice for the Garrard SP25
in the good old days. It sounded curiously wooden.

It could be helped along by altering the capacitive loading. One
genuine case where the choice of cable really did have an effect.

I preferred the Shure M75 (when cheap and nasty was all I could
afford.)

Could be. I only used a cheap and cheerful G800E when by Decca was
off for fixing. And they kept them in stores. ;-)

In the US cartridges like the Shure M3D, M3D/N21 filled the bill for arms
that were too massy and/or had too much friction.

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
Arny Krueger wrote:
Interesting. My experience with Lenco turntables was that they looked
great, but had massy, high-friction arms.

Yup - and were best matched to a medium compliance cart. Like the Goldring
G800H etc.


IIRC the G800 was favoured by DJs and even the Beeb because it was the only
cartridge that would survive continual disc cueing.

Ian
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Ian Bell

On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 11:56:56 -0500, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message

In article ,
Eiron wrote:
The Goldring G800 was a popular choice for the Garrard SP25
in the good old days. It sounded curiously wooden.

It could be helped along by altering the capacitive loading. One
genuine case where the choice of cable really did have an effect.

I preferred the Shure M75 (when cheap and nasty was all I could
afford.)

Could be. I only used a cheap and cheerful G800E when by Decca was
off for fixing. And they kept them in stores. ;-)

In the US cartridges like the Shure M3D, M3D/N21 filled the bill for arms
that were too massy and/or had too much friction.

I used a GL75 for several years, both the Goldring G800E and the Shure
M75ED seemed quite happy in it.
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Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
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On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 11:56:56 -0500, "Arny Krueger"

wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message

In article ,
Eiron wrote:
The Goldring G800 was a popular choice for the Garrard SP25
in the good old days. It sounded curiously wooden.

It could be helped along by altering the capacitive loading. One
genuine case where the choice of cable really did have an effect.

I preferred the Shure M75 (when cheap and nasty was all I could
afford.)

Could be. I only used a cheap and cheerful G800E when by Decca
was
off for fixing. And they kept them in stores. ;-)

In the US cartridges like the Shure M3D, M3D/N21 filled the bill
for arms
that were too massy and/or had too much friction.

I used a GL75 for several years, both the Goldring G800E and the
Shure
M75ED seemed quite happy in it.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Same here.

Pinky, did you ever try loading it properly? Defined load was 47K in
parallel with 470pF. Most amps, mine included presented about 200pF,
and the cables accounted for about 90pF, so I made some phono in-lines
with 150pF in them. The difference was staggering - the edginess all
gone, smoother, easier on th ear, and (to my ears) better bass.

To late to try it now no doubt?


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Woody

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