I think it depends on how much you are spending as regards the importance of
names. A cheap Technics/Denon etc is not much better than a Cheap budget
brand (of which there are many)

Remember that you get nothing for nothing in this world, and if a system is
offering a lot for a small price then something (normally build quality etc)
will be compromised......

The best thing to do is go and listen to these systems, take some of your
own music CD's etc along

If you want cheap gear then somewhere like richer sounds could be a place to
start, it may seem like a pain the bum but if you put some time in and
listen and perhaps assemble a separates system you could end up with
something reasonable

I hope this helps

Gary


"AberTech" wrote in message
...
Gary wrote:
It looks the usual pile of ****e that has as much to do with making
music as Mcdonalds do with producing real food.

sorry

Ok. Thanks for your feedback.

How important is the name when buying audio products? As in manufacturers
name vs product specs?

Gary wrote:
I think it depends on how much you are spending as regards the importance of
names. A cheap Technics/Denon etc is not much better than a Cheap budget
brand (of which there are many)

Remember that you get nothing for nothing in this world, and if a system is
offering a lot for a small price then something (normally build quality etc)
will be compromised......

The best thing to do is go and listen to these systems, take some of your
own music CD's etc along

If you want cheap gear then somewhere like richer sounds could be a place to
start, it may seem like a pain the bum but if you put some time in and
listen and perhaps assemble a separates system you could end up with
something reasonable

I hope this helps

Gary


Yep - have a listen, even in Currys or RS. I bought a Panasonic mini
system years ago, about £200 with speakers. I listened to several up to
£400 in Currys - my criteria was a line input for the computer; sound
quality; cd; radio; cassette; smallish. The Panasonic sounded streets
ahead of the rest - even though its 'ratings' (lowish 10W power) looked
poor.

This may be difficult for you with the floorstanding speaker preference
- I really don't think you're going to get very good speakers of this
type for your budget, best to get the tiddly Missions IMO.

Rob

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 07:26:30 +0000 (UTC), Gary
wrote:
I think it depends on how much you are spending as regards the importance of
names. A cheap Technics/Denon etc is not much better than a Cheap budget
brand (of which there are many)

I disagree strongly with the above statement as regards Denon:

http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?se...u tput=gplain

--
Anthony Edwards

Gary wrote:
I think it depends on how much you are spending as regards the
importance of names. A cheap Technics/Denon etc is not much better
than a Cheap budget brand (of which there are many)

Oddly enough, I saw a Dual 'micro hi-fi' in Asda yesterday for £29.99! I
presume Dual have fallen on hard times since the days when they made decent
turntables? Has the name been sold on to someone else?

Rob wrote:
Yep - have a listen, even in Currys or RS. I bought a Panasonic mini
system years ago, about £200 with speakers. I listened to several up
to £400 in Currys - my criteria was a line input for the computer;
sound quality; cd; radio; cassette; smallish. The Panasonic sounded
streets ahead of the rest - even though its 'ratings' (lowish 10W
power) looked poor.

I think I know what you mean. Browsing around Comet last month there was a
Philips Micro system at around £150 which sounded surprisingly good.

This may be difficult for you with the floorstanding speaker
preference
- I really don't think you're going to get very good speakers of this
type for your budget, best to get the tiddly Missions IMO.

I was thinking of the Mission M73I floorstander speakers paired with the
Cambridge Audio A5 amp and CD34 cd player?

AberTech wrote:
Rob wrote:

Yep - have a listen, even in Currys or RS. I bought a Panasonic mini
system years ago, about £200 with speakers. I listened to several up
to £400 in Currys - my criteria was a line input for the computer;
sound quality; cd; radio; cassette; smallish. The Panasonic sounded
streets ahead of the rest - even though its 'ratings' (lowish 10W
power) looked poor.


I think I know what you mean. Browsing around Comet last month there was a
Philips Micro system at around £150 which sounded surprisingly good.


This may be difficult for you with the floorstanding speaker
preference
- I really don't think you're going to get very good speakers of this
type for your budget, best to get the tiddly Missions IMO.


I was thinking of the Mission M73I floorstander speakers paired with the
Cambridge Audio A5 amp and CD34 cd player?




If you're willing to forgo the convenience of an all-in-one box that
setup might well do you. Have a look at:
http://www.reviewcentre.com/reviews408.html
for some reviews of the M73 - pretty mixed and plenty of 'light bass'
comments. I've only owned the very old Cambridge stuff, but read
consistently good things about the newer RS range. Noisy transformers is
about the worst I've come across.

Visit a RS during a quiet moment and try different speakers - i have a
feeling you'll prefer bookshelf for that money (don't be too put off by
'minor names' - I went through all of this with a friend about a year
ago and he preferred some 'Eltax' speakers; even I was impressed!), but
in any event you're not likely to go far wrong.

Rob

I agree with you Anthony
The Denon is substancially better than any other cheap budget system I have
heard, and if you must have a midi system it beats anything at twice the
price.
imo it mush better than the simular technic's offering.

chris


"Anthony Edwards" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 07:26:30 +0000 (UTC), Gary

wrote:
I think it depends on how much you are spending as regards the
importance of
names. A cheap Technics/Denon etc is not much better than a Cheap budget
brand (of which there are many)

I disagree strongly with the above statement as regards Denon:


http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?se...upernews.com&o
utput=gplain

--
Anthony Edwards

AberTech wrote:

Gary wrote:
It looks the usual pile of ****e that has as much to do with making
music as Mcdonalds do with producing real food.

sorry

Ok. Thanks for your feedback.

How important is the name when buying audio products? As in manufacturers
name vs product specs?

It may or may not be important.

More to the point. Curry's have no tradition of nor expertise in selling
audio. They are simply box shifters.

As another poster mentioned - try Richer Sounds - you can get some half-decent
stuff there for a snip price.


Graham