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New speakers with old mini hifi? Opinions please...



 
 
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Old January 10th 05, 07:11 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Peter Scott
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Default New speakers with old mini hifi? Opinions please...


"Fleetie" wrote in message
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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Maelstrom wrote:
I've been thinking of getting a pair of Tdl STUDIO 10 floorstander
speakers (£199) or something similar and quality speaker cable


Don't waste your money on expensive speaker cable. Maplin do a decent
enough one off the reel by the metre. XR72 which costs 0.69p per metre
inclusive of VAT.


The rule used to be that you took your budget and divided by four. A quarter
for the amp and the player and a quarter each for the speakers. The balance
seems to have changed away from the speakers and I think that this is
misguided. Speakers are inherently a problem. They have fundamental flaws
like one driver having to produce low notes that then modulate the higher
frequencies, low efficiency, resonance and varying impedance making smooth
characteristic curves unlikely. Distortion is high compared with the
electronics. I think more money ought to go into speakers.

Peter Scott


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Old January 10th 05, 07:24 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Fleetie
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"Peter Scott" wrote

"Fleetie" wrote in message ...

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ...
In article ,
Maelstrom wrote:
I've been thinking of getting a pair of Tdl STUDIO 10 floorstander
speakers (£199) or something similar and quality speaker cable

Don't waste your money on expensive speaker cable. Maplin do a decent
enough one off the reel by the metre. XR72 which costs 0.69p per metre
inclusive of VAT.


The rule used to be that you took your budget and divided by four. A quarter for the amp and the player and a quarter each for
the speakers. The balance seems to have changed away from the speakers and I think that this is misguided. Speakers are
inherently a problem. They have fundamental flaws like one driver having to produce low notes that then modulate the higher
frequencies, low efficiency, resonance and varying impedance making smooth characteristic curves unlikely. Distortion is high
compared with the electronics. I think more money ought to go into speakers.

Peter Scott


You followed up the wrong post (mine), left my name at the top,
yet included none of my post. The post you meant to follow up
was Dave Plowman's.


Martin
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Old January 10th 05, 10:03 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Chris Isbell
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On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:11:36 -0000, "Peter Scott"
wrote:

The rule used to be that you took your budget and divided by four. A quarter
for the amp and the player and a quarter each for the speakers. The balance
seems to have changed away from the speakers and I think that this is
misguided. Speakers are inherently a problem. They have fundamental flaws
like one driver having to produce low notes that then modulate the higher
frequencies, low efficiency, resonance and varying impedance making smooth
characteristic curves unlikely. Distortion is high compared with the
electronics. I think more money ought to go into speakers.


Agreed. I would suggest 90% for the speakers. I.e. to match 400 pounds
of amplifier and CD/DVD, the speakers would need to cost around 3,600
pounds to get something of equivalent quality.

Perhaps I am an extremist in this area; my headphones cost about the
same as my amplifier and DVD player combined.


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Old January 10th 05, 07:26 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Andrew Chesters
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Default New speakers with old mini hifi? Opinions please...

Fleetie wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ...

In article ,
Maelstrom wrote:

I've been thinking of getting a pair of Tdl STUDIO 10 floorstander
speakers (£199) or something similar and quality speaker cable


Don't waste your money on expensive speaker cable. Maplin do a decent
enough one off the reel by the metre. XR72 which costs 0.69p per metre
inclusive of VAT.



0.69 p a metre? ****, that's cheap.


Martin


You could easily get away with 1/2 that, and suffer NO loss. (In a
normal system / room)

Andrew
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Old January 10th 05, 07:26 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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Default New speakers with old mini hifi? Opinions please...

In article ,
Fleetie wrote:
Don't waste your money on expensive speaker cable. Maplin do a decent
enough one off the reel by the metre. XR72 which costs 0.69p per metre
inclusive of VAT.


0.69 p a metre? ****, that's cheap.


It's figure of eight cable, and has a conductor size of about 2.5mm sq -
so suitable for pretty well any domestic installation.

Heavy duty flexible 2 core mains cable is near unobtainable in the UK.

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Old January 10th 05, 07:51 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Fleetie
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote
In article ,
Fleetie wrote:
Don't waste your money on expensive speaker cable. Maplin do a decent
enough one off the reel by the metre. XR72 which costs 0.69p per metre
inclusive of VAT.


0.69 p a metre? ****, that's cheap.


It's figure of eight cable, and has a conductor size of about 2.5mm sq -
so suitable for pretty well any domestic installation.


Whoooosssshhhh!

That was the sound of my post (see above) flying over your head.

The cable costs £0.69 including VAT for one metre; not 0.69p.


Martin The Bored Pedant
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Old January 10th 05, 10:02 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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In article ,
Fleetie wrote:
Whoooosssshhhh!


That was the sound of my post (see above) flying over your head.


The cable costs AO0.69 including VAT for one metre; not 0.69p.


Well, it might be if I knew what AO meant?

But sorry for the typo. Others apparently understood what was meant.

FWIW, you can't use the GBP sign on usenet. It's not an approved
character. It may, or may not come out as intended...

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